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    Default Only 1 medal for the US

    This is very depressing I had high hopes for Andrade,Warren and Wilder but it look's that Wilder will be the only one to walk away with a bronze thus far. The man he is fighting next like's very beatable I think Deontay will that fight after that it's the Cuban or Russian.

    Besides the horrible scoring everyone is talking about. I think US boxing is in trouble.What Teddy Atlas and Bob Papa were talking about would be true.If the US team would bring an outsider in to teach these fighter's and to stop being so dependant on their old coaches for advice rather than man in front of them teaching them. Why is it that Deontay Wilder is getting a medal and is the least expierenced in the olympics because he's the only fighter who is listenening to his trainer in the Olympics. We heard it in the corner yesterday.Andrade just kind of nodded and said yes yes yes.Where as Wilder looked at his trainer dead in the eyes and just listenend. I believe this is the reason we are losing so badly these last few years. What do you think.

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    Surprised at how bad the US team have done

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    Communication seems to be a huge issue with the US squad, even leading up to the Olympics everything seemed incredibly haphazard. It really looks like they didn't train to the Olympic rules, just general training.

    Really dissapointed with the showing, there is definately talent there, but the focus is not. Ironically the guy everyone was expecting to be out in the first round (Wilder) is having the most success.

    Definately need to restructure this thing more for London 2012.
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    I think our Olympic canoeists are doing great.

    None have gone missing so far.
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    Default Re: Only 1 medal for the US

    In the vast majority of boxing gyms that American fighters start training, Olympic boxing is a bit looked down on. I've been told by trainers "I teach real boxing, pro-style." I think in most gyms, there is an emphasis on pro-style fighting, yeah, when they climb the amateur ranks and get the international level, they are at a disadvantage to teams who train their fighters from the start develop styles that result in better scoring with international rules.

    Fightfan brings up a good point that the least experienced guy probably listens better. A lot of these guys have a chance to be much better pros than amateurs and a lot of the metal winners won't ever do anything at the pro level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plopeater View Post
    Surprised at how bad the US team have done
    I'm not at all surprised ever since Mayweather Jr. was an amateur everyone tried to copy that bullshit style of his and it makes not only for piss poor boxing when people other than Floyd try it but it makes for piss poor boxers!

    The slapping and pitterpat bullcrap our amateurs have to use to get wins is 100% the reason America can't develop proper amateur fighters.


    Look at the Americans in the pro ranks today...the fighters with tons of amateur experience Domonick Guinn, Jermain Taylor, Jeff Lacy, Andre Ward, and Rocky Juarez vs the guys with little amateur experience Arreola, Chambers, Kelly Pavlik, The Peterson's, Chad Dawson, Paul Williams, Tavoris Cloud.

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    The Peterson's had little amateur experience They both were top ranked amateurs and both favored to make the Olympic Squad but both lost in the box offs. Dawson too has a national title and had a good record but turned pro very young. I don't know the full extent of it but Pavlik wasn't a bad amateur either I know he went to the US championships which I believe is where Jermain Taylor beat him.

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    Default Re: Only 1 medal for the US

    You Americans should count your blessings. Our (canadian) only guy got massacred!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    The Peterson's had little amateur experience They both were top ranked amateurs and both favored to make the Olympic Squad but both lost in the box offs. Dawson too has a national title and had a good record but turned pro very young. I don't know the full extent of it but Pavlik wasn't a bad amateur either I know he went to the US championships which I believe is where Jermain Taylor beat him.
    Pavlik was 89-9 ....not a lot of experience when compared to Guinn's 290-26 or Lacy's 209-12


    Lamont and Anthony had bigger amateur records but no Olympics.

    Chad Dawson's record was 67-13

    So I fail to see where you think you are correct

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    Comparing amateur boxing to pro boxing is like comparing Arena football to the NFL. It's almost 2 completely different sports.

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    You said the Petersons had little amateur experience, that's where you were wrong. To say that most of those guys had little amateur experience is being naiive. The Olympics isn't the end all, the Petersons had just as much international competition as anyone on the Olympic team. The other guys had a bunch of competition at the national level too. Maybe not Cloud (I don't know) or Williams but I'm pretty sure all those other guys have plenty of amateur experience unless not going to the Olympics or having 200 fights means you have "little amateur experience."

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