Oscar DelaHoya Shifts Toward Paul Williams

[rjj tszyu]

Well IMO Oscar beats Pac and Margarito but could well struggle with Williams. Oscar has always taken the most challenging matches so I wouldn't be suprised if he did again here.

[albsur2006]

If Oscar takes on Paul Williams, then people have to respect that.

I have never liked ODLH but I don't think that he's scared to fight Margarito, I really do think the only reason he's not fighting Margarito is sincerely because he wants to go out beloved and cheered for by all. Fighting Tony (who's establishing a big Mexican fanbase now) just isn't the way to do it. That fight will be split between the mainstream audience/ women rooting for Oscar and most hardcore boxing fans/Mexicans rooting for Tony. ODLH has always been insecure about how he's viewed by the Mexican people and he knows that Mexicans would root against him if he fought Tony. ODLH is a narcissist that can't take being booed or hated and has to be loved by all so there's absolutely no way he's fighting Tony.

So if he can't fight Tony, and if he shouldn't fight Pac, then I'd say Williams is a great option. If ODLH wins, he beat the man (Williams) who beat the man (Tony), he took on a legitimately difficult challenge in Williams, and he'd be the absolute good guy throughout the entire promotion and everyone (but me) would be cheering for him. The only negative for ODLH is that the fight wouldn't sell as much as a Pac or Marg fight but with the right promotion it will still do very well.

[p4pking]

Eh, I don't mind. This is good for Williams, I hope he gets this fight afterall if anyone in this division deserves the De La Hoya spotlight he does as he's the one guy at the top who has yet to get his own super fight.

I hope it happens. Everyone hates both of these guys though and I can understand very few of the qaulms here. Is the demand really that great for De la Hoya to fight Margarito? Pacquiao-De La Hoya was a stupid idea and I'm never going to be convinced otherwise no matter what Freddie Roach or international matchmaker Ausdf Smahfsd says.

So this makes sense, Williams needs to capitalize after his last performance, he looks like he might be entering his prime.

I don't think Hoya-PAC is a stupid idea... The 5'0" Calderon fought and beat the 5'5" Cazares before and they will be fighting again this weekend. I hear no protest about this David vs. Goliath fight. Cazares also enjoys 4" in reach advantage and maybe 15 to 20 lbs. weight advantage on fight night... Calderon-Cazares has more size differential than PAC-Hoya and no one calling it a stupid fight. And here's the irony, the smaller guy won the first fight...
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Calderon only moved up one weight division to fight Cazares though, after being at 105 his entire career before that. Pac fighting DLH at Welter after not even taking a real challenge at 135 is fairly crazy. And the smaller guy winning is not even remotely ironic, I always get a kick out of how badly everyone butchers that term.

[Chino]

At this point, I've lost almost all interest in Oscar De La Hoya...He's like a girl looking in her closet for a date and not being able to decide what dress to put on...

Not only that but other boxers have not accepted to fight him already. Not an easy situation for him now.

This ones a bad Idea For Oscar.Williams is too long,too big,too busy for this late stage Oscar.

Then shouldn't all the forum be happy about this fight and see ODLH loose?

- Hoya slaps Pacquiao with his unfair 70/30 purse split offer and rejecting Pacquiao's 60/40 demand

Unfair? ODLH is still the guy with the bigger name and what he is offering PAC is an amount he is yet to receive in a fight.

Yeah...let's see if Team Hoya will finally mention the name "Miguel Cotto"...

Maybe as fast as Cotto saying "I want to fight Margarito again...NOW!"

[No Contest]

Waaaay better than a Hatton or Pac fight. Williams got his wish....When asked who he would like to fight next. "You know some De La Hoya, you know some Mayweather". It was like he was ordering off a menu and couldn't decide I'll have a lil De La Hoya and a side of Mayweather....

[Chino]

Oscar has always taken the most challenging matches

Exactly.

I have never liked ODLH but I don't think that he's scared to fight Margarito, I really do think the only reason he's not fighting Margarito is sincerely because he wants to go out beloved and cheered for by all. Fighting Tony (who's establishing a big Mexican fanbase now) just isn't the way to do it. That fight will be split between the mainstream audience/ women rooting for Oscar and most hardcore boxing fans/Mexicans rooting for Tony. ODLH has always been insecure about how he's viewed by the Mexican people and he knows that Mexicans would root against him if he fought Tony. ODLH is a narcissist that can't take being booed or hated and has to be loved by all so there's absolutely no way he's fighting Tony.

Didn't see it that way, I agree. Look at what happened after he faced J.C. Chavez. He wants to leave with a good paycheck, victory, and fanbase. It makes sense.

The only negative for ODLH is that the fight wouldn't sell as much as a Pac or Marg fight but with the right promotion it will still do very well.

Wouldn't sell as much but making it his FAREWELL FIGHT might still make some numbers. He would still leave with a fat paycheck if he fought a bum, no doubt.

[XaduBoxer]

- Hoya slaps Pacquiao with his unfair 70/30 purse split offer and rejecting Pacquiao's 60/40 demand

Unfair? ODLH is still the guy with the bigger name and what he is offering PAC is an amount he is yet to receive in a fight.

That's what Pacquiao felt about the 70/30 offer, it's unfair and a slap in his face... Hoya having 60% of the pie clearly indicates that he's the bigger name... Hoya is just too greedy to up his share to a whooping 70% ...

Pacquiao presently is standing tough on his demand of 60/40 purse split and might not even accept a 65/35 split...

[XaduBoxer]

Eh, I don't mind. This is good for Williams, I hope he gets this fight afterall if anyone in this division deserves the De La Hoya spotlight he does as he's the one guy at the top who has yet to get his own super fight.

I hope it happens. Everyone hates both of these guys though and I can understand very few of the qaulms here. Is the demand really that great for De la Hoya to fight Margarito? Pacquiao-De La Hoya was a stupid idea and I'm never going to be convinced otherwise no matter what Freddie Roach or international matchmaker Ausdf Smahfsd says.

So this makes sense, Williams needs to capitalize after his last performance, he looks like he might be entering his prime.

I don't think Hoya-PAC is a stupid idea... The 5'0" Calderon fought and beat the 5'5" Cazares before and they will be fighting again this weekend. I hear no protest about this David vs. Goliath fight. Cazares also enjoys 4" in reach advantage and maybe 15 to 20 lbs. weight advantage on fight night... Calderon-Cazares has more size differential than PAC-Hoya and no one calling it a stupid fight. And here's the irony, the smaller guy won the first fight...
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Calderon only moved up one weight division to fight Cazares though, after being at 105 his entire career before that. Pac fighting DLH at Welter after not even taking a real challenge at 135 is fairly crazy. And the smaller guy winning is not even remotely ironic, I always get a kick out of how badly everyone butchers that term.

I'm pointing out the size differential that everybody is protesting about the planned Hoya-PAC fight. The Cazares-Calderon fight has about the same if not bigger size difference than Hoya-PAC...

...................... Height ....... Reach
Oscar DelaHoya .. 5' 10.5" ...... 73"
Manny Pacquiao .. 5' 6.5" ....... 67"
Difference ............ 4" ........... 6"
Maybe 10 to 20 lbs. weight difference on fight night...

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.................... Height ... Reach
Hugo Cazares .. 5' 5" ...... 66"
Ivan Calderon .. 5' 0" .......63"
Difference ......... 5" ........ 3"
Maybe 10 to 20 lbs. weight difference on fight night...
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[GAME]

No way this fight happens . Paul is the best out there and his style is a nightmare for anyone. Oscar would not seriously consider this fight . Theres more chance of him fighting Tony cuz atleast he would land some shots .

[XaduBoxer]

Oscar/GBP mentioning Paul Williams name in order to generate additional hype for Hoya-PAC fight...
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[rene69]

At this point, I've lost almost all interest in Oscar De La Hoya...He's like a girl looking in her closet for a date and not being able to decide what dress to put on...

He!he! exactly!!

[XaduBoxer]

At this point, I've lost almost all interest in Oscar De La Hoya...He's like a girl looking in her closet for a date and not being able to decide what dress to put on...

He!he! exactly!!

Oscar "The Bachelorette" DelaHoya ...
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[TitoFan]

At this point, I've lost almost all interest in Oscar De La Hoya...He's like a girl looking in her closet for a date and not being able to decide what dress to put on...

Brilliant analogy..... LMFAO!

[XaduBoxer]

Who do you think these boxers will cheer for? Hoya or PAC?

1. PBF - he was wildly cheering for PAC (even jumping at ringside) during the 2nd Morales fight. I think he will be cheering for PAC again in this fight...

2. JCC Sr. - I think Chavez Sr. doesn't like Oscar and might be cheering for PAC...

3. MAB - Barrera recently broke his ties with Golden Boy Promotions. He might side with PAC in this fight.

4. Vargas - Fernando Vargas walked and cheered for David Diaz in his fight with Pacquiao but after PAC convincingly beat his boy in a fair clean fight, Vargas might cheer for PAC this time around.

So these are my guesses:
1. PBF - PAC
2. JJC Sr. - PAC
3. MAB - PAC
4. Vargas - PAC

What's your thoughts?

[Chino]

Another thread to show some more love for ODLH, eh?

I'll say NOBODY, except me, will ever cheer for ODLH because he's such a terrible guy in and out of the ring.