Well i have hard time with that because he chose to fight Hearns who made use miss alot of Ray Leonards prime because of that fight.
Well i have hard time with that because he chose to fight Hearns who made use miss alot of Ray Leonards prime because of that fight.
Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, John Mugabi, Aaron Pryor, are just a few of the fighters he avoided.
Plus he never gave Wilfredo Benitez a rematch its well known, Wilfredo Benitez only trained for like 2 weeks ? He also avoided a rematch with Thomas Hearns and only took the rematch, when he thought Thomas Hearns was shot.
Not to mention who was more worthy Pryor or Hearns at Welterweight.
ok after Benitez he fought Duran then after that fought Hearns. His eye was fucked up after the fight did not fight for sometime after. Ice how could he avoid those guys there were big but not teh names of Hearns or Duran and Nunn,Mugabi,McCallum were in higher weight classes and when they won titles Ray was not fighing. So that just silly to say ducked i am sorry Proyer never left his divsion and proved himself at welterweight that was his fault not Rays.
Last edited by Mr140; 10-21-2008 at 07:13 PM.
What about Jerry Quarry? He lost to everyone!
Lewis
Norton
Sanchez
Nelson
Hamed
Benn
Frazier
Hearns
Graham
Trinidad
Hopkins
Oscar
Robinson
Common man list is ttttooooo lllllllllllooooooooooooooonnnnngggggggggggg
Ice how would rematch Hearns they were saying he should not even fight and you saying the other names are silly they did not even win titles yet and when they did were in different weight classes so i really do not get your logic silly. Ray was out for a while and by the time he came back no way the fights were happening.
Alright Ice let me show you somthing about the fighter you say he ducked
Micheal Nunn- Won a title when Ray just came back and won his over Hagler and after that he already went after the lh and smw titles.
Mike MucCallum- just won a title when Ray retired did not fight till Hagler and when he did come back Mike MucCallum lost his title.
Donald Curry- Was fighting over and britian and Ray was fight Bentiz, Hearns and also Duran and Donald lost as well.
Aaron Pryor- Did not deserve to fight Ray Hearns deserved to he never did anything at welter or even try to that was his fault ice.
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Joe Calzaghe![]()
Markus, you blow my mind! After seeing your posts and how you get defensive on fighters you like is appaulling! Seriously...you believe Hamed never ducked Marquez?!?!
Boxingfanatics.com
This one is a long article but it says "He quickly climbed his way up the rankings with wins over Julian Wheeler, Darryl Pickney, and Agapito Sanchez, until he finally became the WBO Featherweight #1 contender. Soon, he became known as the fighter Naseem Hamed shamelessly ducked for 22 months. Tired of waiting for a crack at The Prince, Marquez moved on..."
ESPN - The champ most avoid meets king without a crown - Boxing
In this article Rafael says, "When Naseem Hamed was featherweight champ, he ducked Marquez for years, even when he became the mandatory challenger."
Hamed Under Fire | British Boxing Heroes
In this article:
Bruce Williams, writer, Boxing Update: “Juan Manuel Marquez was screwed out of his too-long-overdue mandatory with WBO feather champ Naseem Hamed, who didn’t even have the huevos to come to Puerto Rico and make his own appeal for more dispensations to seek world title unifiers.
Ivan Goldman, writer, KO Magazine: “Should Hamed ultimately forsake his WBO belt to go after another title, it won’t be because he suddenly decided the WBO belt was beneath his dignity. It will be because he’s run out of ways to duck Marquez.”
Teddy Atlas, ringside analyst, ESPN: “Juan Manuel Marquez is a very good fighter. You can tell how good he is by the way Naseem Hamed won’t fight him.”
Anymore rebuttals for this debate?
Last edited by C-Lo; 10-21-2008 at 08:04 PM. Reason: left it out
Miguel Cotto is one that hasn't been mentioned.
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