Joe Calzaghe under the micoscope

[Kev]

Someone list ALL the other fighters, over the past 10 years, that would have remained UNBEATEN against Calzaghe's comp?

Calzaghe benefited from an extraordinarily weak 168 division over the past decade.

When Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler are the marquee names on your resume for a Hall of Fame bid, you are a very fortunate man.

If calzaghe had been fighting the best guys from 160-175 over the past decade, would he still have his "0"?

Hopkins (not the 43 yr old version)
Jones (not the 40 yr old version)
Tarver
Taylor
Pavlik
Johnson
Toney
Winky
etc


Instead, Joey made time for Peter Manfredo and Sakio Bika.

That's an impressive list of fighters. If Calzaghe had never beaten ANY you'd have a very reasonable argument..

BUT - from your list Hopkins beat

Tarver
Pavlik
Johnson
Winky

Calzaghe BEAT Hopkins. That must count for something, no? He beat the man that beat the men - that supposedly could equal his achievements.

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[QUISQUEYA]

Calzaghe BEAT Hopkins. That must count for something, no? He beat the man that beat the men - that supposedly could equal his achievements.

Calzaghe beat a FORTY THREE YEAR OLD Hopkins. By a close points decision. After getting knocked down.

Please don't be confused. Hopkins dominating Pavlik says more about what Pavlik is NOT, than what Hopkins (at 43) is.

With all due respect, that "man that beat the man" argument is seriously flawed. Unless you are prepared to anoint Junior Jones as an ATG. Because he also "beat the man who beat the man".

[alithegreatest786]

he reall lost to hopkins, and true boxing fans know it, those who prefer activity by slapping truly belive calzaghe won