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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    I don't see Kessler's people wanting a fight with Bernard. Kessler would rather have a guy come to him, I don't think he wants to press the fight and have to figure out a guy like Hopkins.

    Not to mention say he does win convincingly, people can just spin it as Bernard finally got old.

    I still am not totally sure about why Arum made the Pavlik-Hopkins fight.

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    Don't know who'd I'd go with in this one, I think it would be a close fight,
    maybe lean towards Hopkins... I'd love to see it though!

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    I believe this isn't that bad of a match up for Kessler. He is a much better counter puncher then Calzaghe, and I feel if Hopkins tried to counter off the ropes like he did against Calzaghe, Kessler would be able to catch Hopkins after he throws that right hand and goes in for the clinch. Calzaghe surprisingly wasnt' able to counter that, but I believe Kessler can. Also I think Hopkins is easiest to hit with the jab, and nobody has a better jab in boxing than Mikkel Kessler. He wasn't able to use it against the southpaw Calzahge very effectively, but if Pavlik can land his jab on Hopkins(which isn't really a jab more of a range finder, then Kessler could definitely land his jab).

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    Apparently this guy really didn't watch the fight almost two weeks ago. Kessler is a European fighter very straight up no bending in the waist knees any of that. He has a solid one-two I haven't seen anything thing else in his arsenal. The one punch he hit Calzaghe with was lunging uppercut that caught Joe completely by suprise.He probably thought the same thing I did at the time" Damn he threw something different." I like Kessler I think he is very talented but the B-Hop that showed up almost two Saturday's ago would do the same thing to him IMO.
    What are you talking about. First he landed plenty of right crosses on Joe Calzaghe, but I hate how people watch two fights of a guy and think they know how he fights. Watch any of his earlier fights, Kessler can punch in combinations, his best punch besides his jab is his left hook, watch that punch pick Andrade apart in their fight. Kessler has good movement, and timing. IMO he is the stereotypical boxer, he fights exactly how its taught out of the book. I think his problem with Calzaghe was stamina based, Calzaghe fought at a quick pace and Kessler couldn't keep up, but Mikkel landed the far harder punches in that fight.

    Its Pavlik who is the one dimensional fighter that Bernard picked apart, Pavlik throws wide looping hooks, he basically has a right hand that he sets up with his jab, but he has poor footwork, and he's pretty easy to hit.

    I think Kessler has an honest arguement in beating Hopkins, and I believe he would pick Pavlik apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    Apparently this guy really didn't watch the fight almost two weeks ago. Kessler is a European fighter very straight up no bending in the waist knees any of that. He has a solid one-two I haven't seen anything thing else in his arsenal. The one punch he hit Calzaghe with was lunging uppercut that caught Joe completely by suprise.He probably thought the same thing I did at the time" Damn he threw something different." I like Kessler I think he is very talented but the B-Hop that showed up almost two Saturday's ago would do the same thing to him IMO.
    What are you talking about. First he landed plenty of right crosses on Joe Calzaghe, but I hate how people watch two fights of a guy and think they know how he fights. Watch any of his earlier fights, Kessler can punch in combinations, his best punch besides his jab is his left hook, watch that punch pick Andrade apart in their fight. Kessler has good movement, and timing. IMO he is the stereotypical boxer, he fights exactly how its taught out of the book. I think his problem with Calzaghe was stamina based, Calzaghe fought at a quick pace and Kessler couldn't keep up, but Mikkel landed the far harder punches in that fight.

    Its Pavlik who is the one dimensional fighter that Bernard picked apart, Pavlik throws wide looping hooks, he basically has a right hand that he sets up with his jab, but he has poor footwork, and he's pretty easy to hit.

    I think Kessler has an honest arguement in beating Hopkins, and I believe he would pick Pavlik apart.

    I did say he has very solid one two correct meaning the jab and the right hand. No I have seen a couple of his fight's not just the Calzaghe fight the fight with Mundine same thing one-two,one-two.

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    i think bhop takes it, if he got hurt by calzaghe, he would really feel it from hopkins.

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    In regards to the title of the thread:

    I rember people saying the same thing about Pavlik against Hopkins!

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    Kessler against Calzaghe!

    I have doubts, major ones. IMO Hopkins would put on another clinic!
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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    Kessler wishes he could get that marquee match,up until the opening bell I believe.I like Kessler but Hopkins Imo would box his ears.Why exactly would Hopkins,who has about one or two left in the tank in good form,even consider this fight with a little known (stateside) Mikkel Kessler......ecspecially off of a career highlight performance with Pavlik.

    He will be Roy's biggest fan the 8th,watching every second with dollar signs running through his head.He'llwatching Roy's back and probally even winces when Roy crosses the street in heavy traffic.

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I believe this isn't that bad of a match up for Kessler. He is a much better counter puncher then Calzaghe, and I feel if Hopkins tried to counter off the ropes like he did against Calzaghe, Kessler would be able to catch Hopkins after he throws that right hand and goes in for the clinch. Calzaghe surprisingly wasnt' able to counter that, but I believe Kessler can. Also I think Hopkins is easiest to hit with the jab, and nobody has a better jab in boxing than Mikkel Kessler. He wasn't able to use it against the southpaw Calzahge very effectively, but if Pavlik can land his jab on Hopkins(which isn't really a jab more of a range finder, then Kessler could definitely land his jab).
    I don't think it's fair to assume the bhop who fought Calzaghe, Winky, Tarver, and De la hoya will be the bhop who'd fight kessler.

    THAT bhop threw 1 punch and looked to hug all fight. If Bhop shows up looking to actually work like he did against Kelly, then we have an entirely different fight. Bhop stayed off the ropes beautifully in that fight.

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    According to this guy's article anyway:

    Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It



    By Chris Williams: I think we saw the fighter that can ultimately put Bernard Hopkins out of his misery last Saturday night when super middleweight Mikkel Kessler (41-1, 31 KOs) destroyed Danilo Haussler in a 3rd round TKO in Oldenburg, Germany. This wouldn’t a case of Hopkins picking on a middleweight fighter like Kelly Pavlik, who at the end of the day, was just too small for the light heavyweight Hopkins. Kessler has the size at 168, the boxing skills, the movement and the speed to easily handle Hopkins and retire him from the sport.

    As good as Kessler looked, I doubt that Hopkins will want to take the hook and seek out a fight with him. Hopkins wants a fight with Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones Jr., either of which would bring in much more money without all the risk that Kessler would bring to the table. I realize that Kessler has been beaten by Calzaghe, but the fight was very close and in a rematch, I’m fairly certain he would beat him. That’s why Calzaghe probably doesn’t want to face him again. As far as Kessler-Hopkins, I don’t see any reason why this fight can’t place.

    Kessler would probably agree to fight Hopkins at 175 any day of the weak, because it would mean that he would only have to put on a couple of pounds to make the fight. Realistically, Kessler wouldn’t have to gain a pound and he would still be big enough, quick enough and skilled enough to beat him. Ultimately, Hopkins may have no other option but to face Kessler, because Calzaghe has no interest whatsoever in going over old ground and beating Hopkins one more time, and Roy Jones Jr. won’t be in the position to fight Hopkins after he loses badly to Calzaghe on November 8th.
    That leaves only Chad Dawson and Kessler as potential opponents for Hopkins. I don’t see Hopkins having any interest in facing Pavlik again, because he would probably do much worse the next time out, and maybe lose to him. Other top fighters in the super middleweight and light heavyweight division, like Carl Froch, Jean Pascal, Denis Inkin, Lucian Bute, Hugo Garay, Zsolt Erdei and Adrian Diaconu, don’t have a big enough name for Hopkins to waste time fighting.

    Hopkins is too small to move up to cruiserweight, so that’s out as well. In the end, Hopkins may have no choice but to fight Kessler if he wants to stay busy. I think Hopkins may have ruined his chances with a second fight with Calzaghe by burning his bridges by going to the last degree with his gamesmanship while trying to promote the fight. Calzaghe probably doesn’t have much interest in a repeat of that whole ordeal, even it does mean a huge payday at the end of the day.

    Hopkins did look good in his last fight, I give him that, but that’s only because Pavlik did a poor job putting pressure on him and cutting off the ring. Kessler’s jab would be a major factor in the fight, as he would keep it in Hopkins’ face the whole time. Hopkins previously had problems in his fight with Jermain Taylor mainly because of Jermain’s jabs and speedy combinations. Kessler would bring the same thing to the table against Hopkins, but adding much more versatility when it comes to offensive firepower.

    I think this would be a fight that the sneaky Hopkins couldn’t think his way through, trying to devise alternative strategies to beat Kessler. Believe me, Kessler would have a plan B, C, D, E and F, and would quickly work through each one until he found one that worked against the older Hopkins.

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    So what do you think? How would this fight go?
    Who is Chris Williams?? Not someone who knows a lot about boxing obviously. Hopkins would school Kessler like he schooled Pavlik Tarver & Trinidad.
    Calzaghe wont fight Nard again because he knows he got lucky Nard wasnt 100%. Plus he had judges that obviously do not know that only punches landed by the knuckle part of the glove count.
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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    I'll start off by saying that a Hopkins fight should be the last thing on Kess mind...

    He needs to take over SMW like he was doing. There's no reason for Kess to move up to 175 to fight.
    He's got some career defining fights to be made at SMW.

    I think a Hopkins fight should be his last resort meaning if there is no other possible fight that he can make.

    I'd def. side with Kess if he fought Hopkins.

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    As unlikely as this match up is, i think this is a good match up.

    I think Kessler has the tools to keep Hopkins humble for a whole 12 rounds but it is logical to assume that Hopkins could out fox Kessler and steal every round.

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    Default Re: Kessler Beats Hopkins, No Doubt About It

    I don't give much credence to the article- it's an attention grabber with little substance.

    it would be great if he fought him though...
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