<b><font color="#800000"><b><font color="#800000">~ RJJ vs. Calzaghe ~ Let's talk! vi

[purtyboy]

So Calzaghe won the fight fair and i'll give him props for that. However this to me atleast, leaves little doubt that Roy would make short work of him in his prime. If this Roy knocked him down and hurt him, I can't begin to imagine what Superman Roy would of done. I still feel Bernard beat Joe, and would beat him again. I have no doubt in my mind that Chad Dawson KOs Joe after seeing B-Hop (past prime, and who is not a puncher) and Roy knock him down. Just had to express my toughts because the whole HBO crew was hugging his nuts a whole lot.

[kingfrnk]

joe won like he was suppose to do, but still went down and even got hurt. so yea a prime roy would kill him but i just hope joe retires cause he still CRAP to me.

[Irish Rover]

I still dont know how I feel about JC.


In the build up to his fights I usually get behind him but once the fight starts and I see the slapping (not to mention that carry on tonight) I find myself routing for him to be KO'd.

Bottom line is he is now Rocky Marciano. Dont care what you say in 50 years time all people will see is the 46-0 record with those two hall of famers at the end. I think he is a great fighter, I have a lot of respect for him and he deserves to be highly regarded.....but I dont feel he is deserving of the praise I am sure he will one day garner.

[Markusdarkus]

joe won like he was suppose to do, but still went down and even got hurt. so yea a prime roy would kill him but i just hope joe retires cause he still CRAP to me.

Honestly you are a total prick, Joe whooped that ass and it it wasnt for a forearm smash would have won every round.

Kinda like Hopkins did against Pavlik. (The Pavlik plod)

[bambamdaddio]

joe won like he was suppose to do, but still went down and even got hurt. so yea a prime roy would kill him but i just hope joe retires cause he still CRAP to me.

Honestly you are a total prick, Joe whooped that ass and it it wasnt for a forearm smash would have won every round.

Kinda like Hopkins did against Pavlik. (The Pavlik plod)

Brilliantly put bud .. but as ever its "yeahbutnobutyeahbut" Well yall out there ... yeah but this Jones got out Jonesd then out boxed and out fought .. not to mention out thought .. but I will lol ... The legend continues !!!!

[bambamdaddio]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn .. in fact lol .. how come nobody has claimed the cut was a head clash .. no doubt its coming

[Gandalf]

I dont think prime Jones Jr would make easy work of Joe at all. You put him down and he gets up, and he keeps you working all the time. That would be a handful for Jones Jr at any time. Not that Im saying Calzaghe would win, but you really cannot tell.

Calzaghe beats Dawson though and no way Hopkins beat Calzaghe. Silly talk.

[CFH]

I dont think prime Jones Jr would make easy work of Joe at all. You put him down and he gets up, and he keeps you working all the time. That would be a handful for Jones Jr at any time. Not that Im saying Calzaghe would win, but you really cannot tell.

Calzaghe beats Dawson though and no way Hopkins beat Calzaghe. Silly talk.

I disagree, I recently watched the fight against and scored it for Hopkins by a point. He landed by far the more effective, accurate punches. Calzaghe mainly came forward while flailing. You can make a very good case for Calzaghe being the winner, but it was as close as the scorecards indicate.

[Markusdarkus]

I dont think prime Jones Jr would make easy work of Joe at all. You put him down and he gets up, and he keeps you working all the time. That would be a handful for Jones Jr at any time. Not that Im saying Calzaghe would win, but you really cannot tell.

Calzaghe beats Dawson though and no way Hopkins beat Calzaghe. Silly talk.

Roys inactivity would cost him real bad. As for Hopkins he is a bad style for Joe but as Calzaghe sais he thought he would walk straight through Hopkins.

Calzaghe on that form would easily beat Hops (With a fair ref) and would obliterate Dawson.

[sweet science]

calzaghe beats a washed-up jones and acts like a wise-ass punk all the way through; throughout the run-up to the fight he said he's taking the fight because jones "is a legend." marciano was a legend too. calzaghe should have dug him up out of his grave and fought him. then he could brag and brag and brag about how he beat an all time great. calzaghe is no all-time great, and only a 17 year-old brit might not grasp this simple truth. please retire calzaghe so we don't have to see your smug wise-ass mug no more.

[Sapphire]

Still a good effort by Roy wasn't hurt by any of Joe's punches mure frusterated. I don't want to see Jones retire yet.

[ICB]

Still a good effort by Roy wasn't hurt by any of Joe's punches mure frusterated. I don't want to see Jones retire yet.

I do i wanted to see RJJ retire along time ago, i don't want to see him tarnish his legacy anymore.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

The more i see it i think calzaghe has to beat one more young hungry lion to put the cherry on top of the cake. If he doesn't he'll always have the innuendo that he beat 2 past their prime legends. If he beat a chad dawson convincingly then that would all dissappear. i think he has to take that risk. He may lose his unbeaten record, but if he beats dawson, he would have very few unbelievers at that point.

[Trainer Monkey]

Still a good effort by Roy wasn't hurt by any of Joe's punches mure frusterated. I don't want to see Jones retire yet.

I do i wanted to see RJJ retire along time ago, i don't want to see him tarnish his legacy anymore.

Im not a Jones fan,but I feel the same way, he hasnt become Ali sad yet, but he's heading that way.
What made him as good as he was,was his legs, and they just arent there anymore.
Hopkins gets by on guile, Roy was so good he never bothered to get sneaky, Joe gets by on the incredible work rate he puts out, Foreman used to get by on "All I need is one punch", Roy doesnt quite have any of that even in his prime.
Theres a moment, you just figure out what nail your hanging the gloves off of, Roy should just realize its time to find his hammer and drive the nail in to the wall.
He was a fighter I didnt like as a person, but he was a great fighter, and thats undeniable, but his road has reached its end hopefully.

[Kev]

So Calzaghe won the fight fair and i'll give him props for that. However this to me atleast, leaves little doubt that Roy would make short work of him in his prime. If this Roy knocked him down and hurt him, I can't begin to imagine what Superman Roy would of done. I still feel Bernard beat Joe, and would beat him again. I have no doubt in my mind that Chad Dawson KOs Joe after seeing B-Hop (past prime, and who is not a puncher) and Roy knock him down. Just had to express my toughts because the whole HBO crew was hugging his nuts a whole lot.

Why? Roy hit him and really hurt him that's true. But what happened next? Joe got up and proceeded to beat his ass, When have you EVER seen Roy Jones outboxed and totally outclassed like that?

Tarver knocked him out from one huge punch (which joe doesn't have) but he never came close to putting a beating like that on him. Johnson overpowered him and beat him up as well but Jones was at his lowest ever point there. And without the natural power Johnson has he wouldn't have outboxed Jones like that.

It made me think Calzaghe might actually beat Jones in his prime. See Calzaghe just does not know how to lose, he has no self doubt at all. When he got hiy he was defiant, dropping his hands and taunting Jones.

That ain't the mark of a man who would crumble against any fighter.

I reckon Calzaghe could have broken Jones will at any time in his career.

COULD being the operative word, it would be one hell of a matchup and Jones would have just as much chance to beat Joe.

But please stop thinking it would be a walkover for Roy becuase Calzaghe is like no other fighter since Marciano imo.