Where does everyone have J.M Marquez in their P4P ratings?

[GAME]

I voted 2 just behind Calzaghe but i find it hard to put him infront of Hopkins so

1. Joe
2. Hopkins
3. JMM

No Pac?

I find it hard to rate Pac above JMM cuz I think he lost twice to him . If we are rating on records though then Id have to go with what the judges say in which case yeah Pac would be up there

[C-Lo]

I had JMM #2 behind Pac, but I think Joe did exactly what was expected of him for the Jones fight making him re-take the #2 spot.

[Dark Lord Al]

I voted 2 just behind Calzaghe but i find it hard to put him infront of Hopkins so

1. Joe
2. Hopkins
3. JMM

No Pac?

I find it hard to rate Pac above JMM cuz I think he lost twice to him . If we are rating on records though then Id have to go with what the judges say in which case yeah Pac would be up there

Not really valid as lots of people have Calzaghe losing to both Robin Ried and Hopkins.

[C-Lo]

I voted 2 just behind Calzaghe but i find it hard to put him infront of Hopkins so

1. Joe
2. Hopkins
3. JMM

No Pac?

I don't think GAME has Pac in his top 10...

[pacfan]

I said that if Marquez beat Casamayor, I'd put him on the top, p4p. Though I regretted it later (who'd think Joel will go out with one punch, just like that), promise is a promise, so he's, with a heavy heart, my no.1 p4p guy. I'm whispering here though, lest Saddoboxer catches me. Of course, if pac beats dela Hoya, he'll get back the p4p title, but since that ain't happening I guess Marquez will be there for a long while, at least until his next fight...

[GAME]

I voted 2 just behind Calzaghe but i find it hard to put him infront of Hopkins so

1. Joe
2. Hopkins
3. JMM

No Pac?

I don't think GAME has Pac in his top 10...

You will have Pac as your number 1 even after he loses to Oscar cuz he is your National treasure

[CutMeMick]

1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe

[Violent Demise]

Got him right were he belongs. Number 1

[XaduBoxer]

As of November 10, 2008 Ring Mag placed JMM still at no. 2...

[KKisser]

imo,

1-pac
2-jc
3-jmm

[C-Lo]

I'm actually at this moment trying to figure out who was the more impressive victory. JMM over Casamayor or Calzaghe over Jones Jr.

Then that'll be my decision on whether JMM is #2 or 3...

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

1)PAC
2)Joe C
3)JMM

[Dark Lord Al]

I have JMM at number 2 , 20 places ahead of Joe Calzaghe

[Addicted to_boxing]

Pac 1a
JMM 1b
JC 2

I witnessed as others have mentioned that JMM won the rematch. However the judges remained enamored with Pac. In my opinion Pac has yet to separate JMM from his hip. Also JMM was extremely more impressive in his KO of Casamayor than Pac's handpicked fight with the limited skilled, speed, talent, etc Diaz.

Also if ODLH beats Pac, Bernstein will be even better suited to train JMM to a clear victory over Pac. This jumping up and down in weight will be Pac's demise, especially if Pac endures some physical punishment vs ODLH.


How does JC get positive credit for beating a shot RJJ ?

[GAME]

Pac 1a
JMM 1b
JC 2

I witnessed as others have mentioned that JMM won the rematch. However the judges remained enamored with Pac. In my opinion Pac has yet to separate JMM from his hip. Also JMM was extremely more impressive in his KO of Casamayor than Pac's handpicked fight with the limited skilled, speed, talent, etc Diaz.

Also if ODLH beats Pac, Bernstein will be even better suited to train JMM to a clear victory over Pac. This jumping up and down in weight will be Pac's demise, especially if Pac endures some physical punishment vs ODLH.


How does JC get positive credit for beating a shot RJJ ?

The same way Pac gets credit for fighting a washed up Barrera and a washed up Morales

Difference is Joe has beaten young unbeaten champs too like Kess and Lacy . Pacs never fought a younger champ and hes been knocked out afew times.