I'm calling this right now.. Oscar Busted Up!

[Wayne]

I think the size difference will be too much, Manny Pacquiao maybe at 149 or whatever but thats his limit. ODLH is naturally way bigger than that and i expect him to be atleast 160 come fight night.

Manny Pacquiao will also have to fight on the backfoot, which takes away the momentum he gets into his shots while coming forward. I also think Manny Pacquiao will be slower, which in turn will make his power less effective. Because Manny Pacquiao relies on his speed to generate his power.

Plus if you have seen Manny Pacquiao sparring, notice how he has to overeach. All the time to hit the bigger sparring partners. Its almost ridiculous at times.

Also people keep saying about ODLH's stamina, but Manny Pacquiao won't be able to come forward against the much bigger man. And test those issues, i just can't see Manny Pacquiao's small frame standing up to those big left hooks of ODLH.

Steve Forbes, Floyd Mayweather Jr, were effective because there fast, slick, good defense. Manny Pacquiao maybe fast but he is no way slick or a good defensive fighter by any means. He hits and gets hit despite his bobbing and weaving, he's still very hittable. And i just can't picture Manny Pacquiao taking ODLH's big left hook.

Let me play Devil's Advocate here. Pac is very hittable, yes, but would it be fair to say that he's been hittable against smaller, faster fighters than Oscar? Also, when Pac is overreaching against sparring partners, could this not be something he and Freddie are resolving while sparring. I mean, you'd prefer to get it wrong in training rather than on fight night. If Oscar comes in 13 pounds above the welter limit might that mean that he was overly drained to make 147? Also Pac looked just as fast and strong at 135, what if he is able to bring in that kind of speed and strength?

My heart and my head are in a war over this. My heart tells me it will be Pac, but my head tells me Oscar is going to eat his lunch and make Freddie shine his shoes. I don't want to, but I have to go with my head.

[Boxerharvey]

When I first heard about the fight I thought straight away what a stupid match up it was and that Oscar is gunna kill little Manny, but as the fight draws nearer and after watching the 24/7 episodes im starting to think Pac will pull of the win. He looks in great shape and to me De Le Hoya does look very weight drained and I think it will take its toll.

[ElTerribleMorales]

please....whoever thinks DLH overtrained to make weight is just a jackass, the man basically has stayed in shape since his bout with Forbes, that was in May, he's already at the welterweight limit, we're in November, the man took all the time he needed to get into the proper shape for this fight, he doesn't look like Morales when he tried to boil down to 130 in the last two Pacquiao fights, he looks fresh and healthy, and very much in shape, i don't wanna go off on them but you Pac groupies are tryin to pull so called advantages out your asses, i don't know if it's out of fear that he'll actually lose to the bigger man and you need some sort of security, but seriously just wait till Dec 6

[KKisser]

we can talk and say all we want but it be best to just wait for dec. 6 and see who's right and who's wrong.

[ICB]

I think the size difference will be too much, Manny Pacquiao maybe at 149 or whatever but thats his limit. ODLH is naturally way bigger than that and i expect him to be atleast 160 come fight night.

Manny Pacquiao will also have to fight on the backfoot, which takes away the momentum he gets into his shots while coming forward. I also think Manny Pacquiao will be slower, which in turn will make his power less effective. Because Manny Pacquiao relies on his speed to generate his power.

Plus if you have seen Manny Pacquiao sparring, notice how he has to overeach. All the time to hit the bigger sparring partners. Its almost ridiculous at times.

Also people keep saying about ODLH's stamina, but Manny Pacquiao won't be able to come forward against the much bigger man. And test those issues, i just can't see Manny Pacquiao's small frame standing up to those big left hooks of ODLH.

Steve Forbes, Floyd Mayweather Jr, were effective because there fast, slick, good defense. Manny Pacquiao maybe fast but he is no way slick or a good defensive fighter by any means. He hits and gets hit despite his bobbing and weaving, he's still very hittable. And i just can't picture Manny Pacquiao taking ODLH's big left hook.

Let me play Devil's Advocate here. Pac is very hittable, yes, but would it be fair to say that he's been hittable against smaller, faster fighters than Oscar? Also, when Pac is overreaching against sparring partners, could this not be something he and Freddie are resolving while sparring. I mean, you'd prefer to get it wrong in training rather than on fight night. If Oscar comes in 13 pounds above the welter limit might that mean that he was overly drained to make 147? Also Pac looked just as fast and strong at 135, what if he is able to bring in that kind of speed and strength?

My heart and my head are in a war over this. My heart tells me it will be Pac, but my head tells me Oscar is going to eat his lunch and make Freddie shine his shoes. I don't want to, but I have to go with my head.

Manny Pacquiao will also be slower and his power less apparent at Welterweight.

[zhubin]

When a fight is being hyped up...it's easy to over analyze every detail. Bottom line...we don't much about anything. According to Roach and Pac's sparring partners...Manny is going to knock Oscar out. That cannot possibly be a biased opinion. Oscar is weight drained and is going to be super weak come fight night...according to what?! Pics of him looking skinny?! With all due honesty...he looked in damn good shape to me in 24/7...as did Pac. All i'm saying...most of this is to hype the fight up. I am using logical reasoning (size, reach, weight, skill) to pick Oscar to win. If Pac proves me wrong...so be it.

[C-Lo]

im takeing the wildcard and saying its going to be a double knockout!

Whoa! Epic! Then we would get a rematch for this pointless fight! Let Pac fight his real competition!

When I first heard about the fight I thought straight away what a stupid match up it was and that Oscar is gunna kill little Manny, but as the fight draws nearer and after watching the 24/7 episodes im starting to think Pac will pull of the win. He looks in great shape and to me De Le Hoya does look very weight drained and I think it will take its toll.

The 24/7 series alters my way of thinking. It made me think Hatton could beat Mayweather, it made me think Jones had a shot at Calzaghe, now it's making me think Pac is going to make this a fight. My mind knew what would happen but the 24/7 series makes me doubt myself.

[BULLDOGBOOGERS]

That's right you Mofo's.... Stoppage in round 11 because Oscar has cuts and bumps that would have any corner man in the world throwing in the towel...



I'm the only one daring enough to put such claims out there, but i'm going to stand behind this one until the end of the fight... Oscar being completely torn up and Beat Cotto v Margo style... Pac is going to be like a jackhammer and DLH the concrete



Just wait and see...

And please no one tell me I know nothing about boxing, because i'm not exactly putting my house and car on this type of long shot...

But, if/when it happens, I want my dues...

just love it !! hope.. people follow your thoughts !! i want those odds to go down !! my wife & i will be at the fight..... we are ready..... are $$$$ is on oscar.... i have tried to post some pic's.... but this site... says my pic's are to big !!! W.T.F.

GOOD LICK TO ALL !!

SCOTT FROM CALIFORNIA

[XaduBoxer]

An insight on cutting/losing weight from another forum:

"Cutting weight is different from losing weight. Cutting weight is temporary and usually invloves dehydration. Losing weight is over a longer period of time and will compose of losing some kind of body mass whether it be fat or lean muscle tissue, sometimes both. To lose weight, you have to eat less so your body will have to use fat reserves for fuel instead of the food intake, and hopefully most of the weight loss id from fat. But, if you lose weight too fast, your body catabolizes and you end up losing lean muscle tissue along the way, and from that, one will feel drained and weaker, especially during a hard training camp. That could probably be why ODH got beat up by Ortiz as he didn't have the proper food intake (fuel) to give him the energy to spar. He was starving himself too early. It's best to starve yourself a few days before the fight as the hard part of training, all the sparring is already done, and you can focus on just making weight.

CUTTING weight, is not too harmful if done right and in moderation. For an average person with an average build, cutting no more than 10 pounds of water weight if the weigh-ins the day before is ideal. More than that, and that is dangerous and you can run into some health problems. Also you have to manipulate your sodium intake as sodium holds water.

You also have to load your body with water about 2 weeks before the weigh-in. When you keep drinking a lot of water (2 gallons a day) your body will get used to flushing water out of your body at a high rate. Then all of a sudden, you stop drinking water (maybe the day before you weigh in) and your body will still be used to flushing water out of your system at a high rate. You do some cardio with warm clothing, jump in the sauna, etc, and you will just keep sweating and sweating and before you know it, you're 10 pounds lighter. Now all you have to do is weigh in and then rehydrate for the fight.

Believe me, I'd rather cut weight for a few hours than starve myself for weeks. That is why Pac always goes into the fight the next day bigger than what he weighed in at.

ADVANTAGE: Pacquiao"

[Tysonbruno]

I bet Pac is stopped before round 7

[Dark Lord Al]

im going for a pac win ,