Im suppose to fight January 31st against andrew jackson!!!!!!!

**Wayne** · 12-26-2008 01:31 PM

Wow, why are people beating up on Charlie? The guy just wanted to plug his fight with the 7th POTUS. Is that a bad thing?

**Gandalf** · 12-26-2008 02:33 PM

Zelenoff is indeed a monster for his weight.

The silly twit.

**punch** · 12-26-2008 03:52 PM

I'm thinking the thing that might hold up the fight is Charlies unwillingness to provide proof of sparring time. Uncle Goodnight wants Charlie to live in the Slug Out Gym for about 2 weeks to help prep for the fight.

That offer sounds like getting a ton of gold bullion to me, am I wrong?
Seriously, just because people who participate in the TPS don't normally train doesn't mean it's against the rules to train. What aversion do these cats have against training?

**Youngblood** · 12-26-2008 06:23 PM

I don't care much about these posts and for the most part can just ignore them, but what bothers me is what happened before, and has potential to happen again if it isn't curtailed.

I'd open up Saddos...and the first post of every section was about this. And it wasn't because people were interested in it...it was because the people involved in it were basically spamming the entire site. Was on the Main Board, the Training Section, Off Topics, Spam, Let's Get it On and the Hidden Forum...and likely others.

And they weren't just spamming this site, they were spamming every boxing site. And so I see it happening again. I can only imagine it is a collective agreement of cooperation perpetuated by Stacy, telling people to get the word out...and others who like sideshow freak acts like Charlie getting into it to laugh at and somehow feel better about themselves in the process.

It was funny at one time, but imho...it has run it`s course and takes away from the quality of the site overall. I don`t want to hear some lies about how Andrew is training 14 hrs a day in the training section, and then see a video of him talking trash with his kids in it. I thought he might get some help in there and it might keep him from getting hurt...but he proved to be fulla shit for after all the talk...he couldn`t even stand one round he was so gassed. So yea..whatever...it is not really a good reflection of the training section to say a new person who is sincere and really wanting to learn. Or to those of us who take training seriously...as well as the sport.

So if these threads are going to start up again...I hope and expect the MODS will keep it in check this time and find an appropriate place for it. For this is what these trailer park associated people do...they spam their brand of whatever you might call it, all over the damn place.

So yea...I bumped this post. I won`t any more, but felt the need to get my thoughts across on it and hope it once again doesn`t get out of hand.

**Trainer Monkey** · 12-27-2008 05:17 AM

Ok in Andrews defense he was training,and is again,he had a bad string of luck that could happen to anyone,a loss in the family,and a really nasty form of the flu that went through here. No he didnt train as hard as he could have,or should have before Dumas,I started helping him,really late in that game,at that point,all I could do was give him ring advise. I had no time to ensure that it was implemented in the ring. And there was a couple of things he didnt tell me that directly hurt his performance,I would have come up with a different game plan if I'd known,we now have a tacit agreement that he tells me everything,good bad or otherwise. Having seen the recent tape on him,he looks technically better then he ever has,and in tighter shape.We'll see what happens.
They just arent in the same position I am,I might mention a fight one of my fighters have coming,just because Im proud of them,but usually thats about it,unless Im the promoter,it isnt my job to promote the fight,thats why ppromoters are called promoters. I more or less read the contracts,and tell them to sign or not. These kids have to sell themselves hard,just to break even.
It gets a bit ridiculous I'll grant,but its the only way they can get anyone to look at them.

**punch** · 12-27-2008 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Youngblood

I don't care much about these posts and for the most part can just ignore them, but what bothers me is what happened before, and has potential to happen again if it isn't curtailed.

I'd open up Saddos...and the first post of every section was about this. And it wasn't because people were interested in it...it was because the people involved in it were basically spamming the entire site. Was on the Main Board, the Training Section, Off Topics, Spam, Let's Get it On and the Hidden Forum...and likely others.

And they weren't just spamming this site, they were spamming every boxing site. And so I see it happening again. I can only imagine it is a collective agreement of cooperation perpetuated by Stacy, telling people to get the word out...and others who like sideshow freak acts like Charlie getting into it to laugh at and somehow feel better about themselves in the process.

It was funny at one time, but imho...it has run it`s course and takes away from the quality of the site overall. I don`t want to hear some lies about how Andrew is training 14 hrs a day in the training section, and then see a video of him talking trash with his kids in it. I thought he might get some help in there and it might keep him from getting hurt...but he proved to be fulla shit for after all the talk...he couldn`t even stand one round he was so gassed. So yea..whatever...it is not really a good reflection of the training section to say a new person who is sincere and really wanting to learn. Or to those of us who take training seriously...as well as the sport.

So if these threads are going to start up again...I hope and expect the MODS will keep it in check this time and find an appropriate place for it. For this is what these trailer park associated people do...they spam their brand of whatever you might call it, all over the damn place.

So yea...I bumped this post. I won`t any more, but felt the need to get my thoughts across on it and hope it once again doesn`t get out of hand.

Let's suppose that this thread is started by the real Charlie Zelenoff. I've been familiar with this dude's posts now for what, 3 years? Charlie's posts are always about Charlie, he never discusses anything but himself.
So if you see Charlie started a thread, rest assured; the post is about Charlie. When he posts, he contributes only one post then he ignore his thread and it grows on it's own from other people commenting, so I can't agree that the public interest has run it's course.
Am I ready for a new topic of interest? you betcha!