What should Hatton do vs Pac?

[porkypara]

I know Pac-man is a great all around fighter but I think he is at his best middle to long range.


With this in mind I think Hatton's best chance might be to go balls to the wall like he did against KT.

Close the distance fast and work in side to the body with short hooks.Dont stand in front of Manny doing nothing,lots of head movement.
But dont get drawn into toe to toe slugging as that would suit Pac-Man .


Who has the advantage in speed in this one? I would say Pac

If Hatton comes straight in (which is EXACTLY what Roach and Pac will train for), Pac will step back and turn Hatton while landing those meaningful straight lefts that Hatton loves to eat.

Obviously I mean with head movemnt and trying to pick off shots on the way in.

I think it will be strange for Pac man to have somone going at him(with skill+thought) instead of away from him.
Pac might struggle to fine room for his punches.

The more I think aboout it I thnk Ricky is going to win this.

[littlebif]

When Hatton is on the inside instead of grabbing till the ref calls brake i would like to see him jab while he steps out of range that will stop manny coming straight back at him with combinations aslong as hatton can land it.

[hitmann]

What would you tell Hatton to do to beat Pac if you were in his corner?

Sure, I can see hardcore Pac fans come in here and say Hatton has nothing at all, Pac is invincible, etc. But for everybody else, what would be the right strategy for Hatton? Advantages, disavantages, things to avoid, etc.

id be telling hatton to keep the pressure on for 3 mins of every round, pressure busts pipes, and not to lunge in, and to move his head to confuse pacman. im feeling very confident that hatton is gonna tko/ko the pacman with some leathal body punching business! the pacman can be vulnerable to those body shots and i feel as soon as pacman has felt 1 of those he will slow down and the KO will be much easier. Id also be telling hatton to keep the fight at his pace, get pacman on the ropes and beat the crap out of him! lol

too obvious, Roach already knows it and will have strategy against it.
Do you think MP is vulnerable to body shots? Barrera, Morales and Marquez could have exposed him years ago. people always bring up pacman's loss via bodyshot....geeeez...that was waaaaaayyyyyy more than a DECADE AGO!!!! he was young, lacked discipline to prepare and maintain his weight and that got him into trouble. If your pinning your hopes on that, say goodbye to Hatton. Manny is totally different today!

Im not talking about his KO loss via a bodyshot, im thinkin more of that left hook that marquez threw from a long way out in their rematch, that really hurt him. I just think hatton has more of a powerfu body shot than marquez.

[ross]

I think its gonna end up a very rough fight, Hatton may try to box a bit and he does have quick hands and a nice left hook but if Manny does land those lefts I think it will get rough.

Remember, Malignagi was supposed to be tough, Hatton made him fight scared, I think Manny is going to get a shock when he feels Rickys strength and sees his speed, even Floyd was getting caught a little early on, more than hes used to and Manny is much more open to be hit.

Im pretty sure that Roach is taking this fight more serious than the De La Hoya fight, he knew that De La Hoya wasnt going to do much and then the idiot came in 2lbs under and did bugger all and made Pacquiao look like Robinson

In much the same way that Manny was made to look better by Oscar I think Ricky will be made to look better better by Manny, the strength has to play a part, Oscar couldnt use his because he took his own away and all his energy, Ricky will fight and will punch and will be on Pacquiao.

We havent seen how Manny deals with strength yet, Diaz was there to be hit, Oscar had nothing at the stupid weight he came in at, Ricky will be a monster compared to anyone Pacquiao has fought before but I can still see Hatton getting caught a few times by the left, its how he deals with that, Ricky took some nice shots from Mayweather before he got clumped, im not too sure Manny is gonna be a very big puncher in this weight.

[KananKrus]

It seems like we always attribute Pacquiao's win more on the undoing of any opponent, than to merit what it really amounts to, is Pacquiao's doing.

This plainly is poor judgment, or disrespect.

Clearly, anybody who's familiar with Pacquiao; his fighting style, and his capability, is likewise familiar with the jab, jab, left straight. This Pacquiao staple, right jab, followed by another right jab, and finished with a smoking left straight, felled many a name fighters.

For sure, the dela Hoya camp is not remiss, and under prepare against this. Well, they actually overdid it! This was the main thrust of their strategy, much like that of JMM.

How many of this jab, jab left straight did they see in the first six rounds of the fight when it was still relevant to the actual fight? Say six! The abysmal number, that Pacquiao employed this staple arsenal, is what threw off dela Hoya’s game plan. As the fight progressed, they have no alternative plan. The downtrend became irreversible!

To expound more is to give away precious info against my boy, the PacMan.

The fight is a case for one’s good game plan, winning, overcoming the other.

I will leave with that. It would be nice if people will watch tape again before they fill the “posts neighborhood” with mush, or disrespect!

[ross]

I tried reading and understanding that and its just jibbering nonesense

[DatsiK]

I think the main thing hatton needs to do is stay close to manny constantly and therefore neutralise any speed because manny won't have the room. I can't say I've saw manny fight a mostly on the inside kinda fight so it will be interesting to see how that pans out, and at the same time we've all saw what happens when Hatton cannot close the gap down effectively.. he gets caught with ALOT of straights.. (I think Floyd caught him with 6-7 HARD rights to the chin as hatton was trying to close the gap down at times).

I think if hatton was still with Billy Graham he wouldn't stand half as much of a chance against manny but not only has floyd snr revitalised his career ambitions he will also teach him alot of stuff.. where as I don't think there is much more roach can teach pac man..

The last thing I bare in mind with manny is his chin has not truly been tested above featherweight.. correct me if I'm wrong but DLH didn't land one solid punch throughout the fight. What will we see if hatton catches manny with a banger? Where as we've seen the kind of punches hatton can take, especially when he walked through anything kosta threw at him and kept closing him down. A very interesting fight this one will be, potential fight of the year

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

Hatton should work Manny's body HARD.
He should Clinch and fight inside of the clinch, cause as far as I know Pacquiao isnt very good in clinch fighting.

[XaduBoxer]

Hatton should take the fight inside... This is the only place where Hatton's shorter arms are NOT at disadvantage... This is one of the few PAC fights where PAC will enjoy a 2" reach advantage... Hmmnn interesting... What could be the result with PAC having a 2" reach advantage?

[:::PSL:::]

"Keep countering and be the boss" that's all I have to say.

Btw Chino, when do you think you're going to see pacfans reaction when Pacquiao get his next defeat? Obviously the DLH fight was big disapointment for you.

[jackassess]

he should start training..should focus on his speed...

[KananKrus]

It seems like we always attribute Pacquiao's win more on the undoing of any opponent, than to merit what it really amounts to, is Pacquiao's doing.

This plainly is poor judgment, or disrespect.

Clearly, anybody who's familiar with Pacquiao; his fighting style, and his capability, is likewise familiar with the jab, jab, left straight. This Pacquiao staple, right jab, followed by another right jab, and finished with a smoking left straight, felled many a name fighters.

For sure, the dela Hoya camp is not remiss, and under prepare against this. Well, they actually overdid it! This was the main thrust of their strategy, much like that of JMM.

How many of this jab, jab left straight did they see in the first six rounds of the fight when it was still relevant to the actual fight? Say six! The abysmal number, that Pacquiao employed this staple arsenal, is what threw off dela Hoya’s game plan. As the fight progressed, they have no alternative plan. The downtrend became irreversible!

To expound more is to give away precious info against my boy, the PacMan.

The fight is a case for one’s good game plan, winning, overcoming the other.

I will leave with that. It would be nice if people will watch tape again before they fill the “posts neighborhood” with mush, or disrespect!

This is a nice addition to my previous post. Robert Garcia, Oscar dela Hoya's conditioning coach is interviewed by Brent Matteo Alderson of BoxingScene.com.

BoxingScene.com: Did Oscar grow old overnight? What happened that night?

Robert Garcia: It was confusion. He didn’t tell me he didn’t have it that night as far as energy. You know what happened and it never happened to him and it happened a little with Steve Forbes, he got lackadaisical and got hit with clean shots. And from what I hear from Joe Chavez, the left hand that hit him in the first round was so clean he was already dazed. Oscar is a hard guy to get to, so the confusion with the southpaw style added to the fact that Manny was hitting him flush with that straight left hand took him mentally out of his game and for the first time he was fuzzy in his head, he was kind of dazed from some of the punches he took. I mean Oscar is a hard guy to get a glove on, he knows how to slip and slide and get out of there, he uses his feet, but because of the southpaw style he wasn’t stalking him or retreating the way he normally does because he was confused. All the big shots Manny landed that night had a snow ball effect. So number one it was frustration.

BoxingScene.com: There has been rumors about a possible fight with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Does Oscar have anything left?

Robert Garcia: Yeah Oscar has two more fights in him if he does what he needs to do. Go back to Mayweather, get the right sparring. From his reflexes, from his speed, from all the things he still possesses he’s not a shot fighter - he had a bad outing

[KananKrus]

The link for the complete Robert Garcia interview by BoxingScene, is provided for below:

Oscar De La Hoya�s Conditioning Coach Speaks Out - Boxing News

[Gandalf]

The link for the complete Robert Garcia interview by BoxingScene, is provided for below:

Oscar De La Hoya�s Conditioning Coach Speaks Out - Boxing News

What does this have to do with what Hatton will do against Manny?? Completely irrelevant.

Hatton should get back to work early this year and get focussed because he can beat Pac. There are a lot of limitations in Pac and he has not been tested at all beyond 135.

[KananKrus]

The link for the complete Robert Garcia interview by BoxingScene, is provided for below:

Oscar De La Hoya�s Conditioning Coach Speaks Out - Boxing News

What does this have to do with what Hatton will do against Manny?? Completely irrelevant.

Hatton should get back to work early this year and get focussed because he can beat Pac. There are a lot of limitations in Pac and he has not been tested at all beyond 135.

Calm down Mr. Miles.... I did not stray too far. Just an addition to a prior post.

Hatton has to stick to a solid gameplan, and not get discouraged as Oscar did, when confronted initially with Pacquiao's baffling approach to fighting. They always say, the best of plans gets severely tested after one solid punch.

If you read up on the Garcia write up, accordiing to Joe Chavez, Oscar was nailed so solidly in the first round that it ruined their approach to the fight. Any other things they were trying to do became difficult because Oscar got discouraged.

This is what Hatton need to avoid. To load up on some psychological strengthening stuff, like it or not, of course ale is not it! (LOL)

Bar room brawl? Body attack? Is all good, as long as you stick with it and not change game plans in the middle of the fight.