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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo My Scorecard After Rewatching It

    Wow ICB we had the exact same scorecard except I traded the first and the sixth with you, I didn't think the 11th was that close at all, Berto was landing way better punches while Collazo was just landing pitty patty type shots. Berto landed more punches and a lot better quality of punches.

    There are a few things that Berto really needs to work on.
    1. Not squaring up: Like somebody said, people mostly land on him when he squares up, he should realize first and foremost he is a speed guy, not a Mike Tyson type power puncher. The only knockdown in his career came because he was walking in on Rivera and he didn't have a foot behind him and he got countered. His style relies on the shoulders to block shots, and they can't when you aren't in the right position.
    2. He needs to go to the body a lot more. He could have gotten a knockdown IMO if he had stayed going to the body in the last round, about 2 minutes in he lands a right hand that knocked the wind out of Collazo, and I think if he would have thrown a few more body shots it would have been great.
    3. He needs to move more naturally/be lighter on his feet. He needs to also use more footwork to set up his offense.
    4. Feint more, he either isn't attacking or he is. Going 100% or not at all. Roy Jones Jr, Mayweather, Pacquiao all switch up their speed on different punches, they also feint a lot, with that type of speed you can feint somebody out of doing anything if its done properly.
    5. Stop winging punches from the outside: I know he is ridiculously fast, but he really needs to stop winging his right hooks from way out, he gets caught a lot because his punches are so big he can stay tight defensively.
    6. Throw more combinations: honestly who is retaliating when that type of speed and power is coming in at them? He also needs to switch it up and throw double crosses, lead with crosses more, go upstairs and downstairs in the same sequence.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo My Scorecard After Rewatching It

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    I watched it again this morning. And I only gave rd2, 7, 8, and 12 for Berto.

    How did you not give him 5? Or 11? Or 6? That is confusing. Going by the logic I am guessing of how you judge rounds then Pacquiao should have definitely lost against JMM in both fights because sometimes a quality punch is worth more than quantity of punches landed, and Berto landed more, and better quality overall in 1,5,6,11.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo My Scorecard After Rewatching It

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Great fight, this is my card.

    1 Collazo
    2. Berto
    3. Collazo
    4. Collazo (10-8 round)
    5. Berto
    6. Collazo
    7. Berto
    8. Berto
    9. Collazo
    10. Collazo
    11. Berto
    12. Berto

    Collazo 114
    Berto 113
    Round for round that was my card exactly. I had to give Collazo the first, because he controlled more of the round. Berto definately had his moments near the end of the first, but not enough to negate the work Collazo started with IMO. I have no problem with cards that would be close either way. A lot of rounds were close.

    Overall I think we are getting too caught up in the details this was a great fight, I really hope that there's a rematch.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo My Scorecard After Rewatching It

    Collazo only controlled Berto in part of round six, while Berto landed more harder punches I don't see how that round can be scored against him...

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