Did Mayweather Approach Manny?

[Drago]

sad situation hatton pac should of happened, if pac thinks he can beat hatton then he could move onto an even bigger fight with floyd.

[fan johnny]

It's probably BS by Pacquiao's people to fool Pacquiao. It has to go through TOP Rank because they are Pacquiao's Promoters.

[DaxxKahn]

It's probably BS by Pacquiao's people to fool Pacquiao. It has to go through TOP Rank because they are Pacquiao's Promoters.

Pacquiao's people to fool Pacquiao

How would that make sense?.....Why would Manny's people make up such a thing just to tell Manny....Who can easily find out if they lied to him

[AdamGB]

I'm still not sure if Pacman could beat Hatton... Don't think he should take a fight with PBF... It's all wrong for him... not saying that PBF would dominate or beat him baddly/make him look bad but I give him a slim chance of actually winning

[Boom Boom]

Yeah, but the final offer was 52-48 for Pac and he didnt take it. Imagine your Hatton the Light Welterweight champion with hundreds of thousands of fans worldwide, would you take anything less? And Manny not making big money at the lower weights is not Hattons concern or his problem.

No never said it was Hattons problem...each fighter wants the most they can get....

And again the not taking the 52-48 and ending on a 50/50 makes Pacquiao seem like he and his people are agreeable to work with....The 50/50 is almost guarenteed thats what they wanted from day 1....

In the futture more promoters etc will be willing to haggle becaus ehe seems to be a guy who will bargin

That is why I mentioned Hopkins..he just would insist on one price and that is it...cost him millions

I don't get what you're saying here daxx? It was Pac that wanted the larger cut.

He refused a 50/50 split. Apparently that's why the fights not happening. His own promoter Bob Arum called the decision "bizarre."

Exactly Fenster, thats what I was confused about too. I respect you Daxx, as you are one of the most knowlegable posters on here imo, but youve caught me off guard on this one and I cant understand your logic. Pac wants the larger cut, not an even split, he wants to make more money than Hatton for the fight plain and simple. Hatton never demanded the lions share, Pac did.

[DaxxKahn]

No never said it was Hattons problem...each fighter wants the most they can get....

And again the not taking the 52-48 and ending on a 50/50 makes Pacquiao seem like he and his people are agreeable to work with....The 50/50 is almost guarenteed thats what they wanted from day 1....

In the futture more promoters etc will be willing to haggle becaus ehe seems to be a guy who will bargin

That is why I mentioned Hopkins..he just would insist on one price and that is it...cost him millions

I don't get what you're saying here daxx? It was Pac that wanted the larger cut.

He refused a 50/50 split. Apparently that's why the fights not happening. His own promoter Bob Arum called the decision "bizarre."

Exactly Fenster, thats what I was confused about too. I respect you Daxx, as you are one of the most knowlegable posters on here imo, but youve caught me off guard on this one and I cant understand your logic. Pac wants the larger cut, not an even split, he wants to make more money than Hatton for the fight plain and simple. Hatton never demanded the lions share, Pac did.

No I understand Pac's is the one who wanted the bigger share....I just don't thhink that they were really firm with it....I think that the demanding they got the bigger share gave them something to bargin with...

EG-- Could have helped them make sure they could bend on the money to guarentee the venue...

Gloves..

PPV money over all etc.....

This way as time goes on they start agreeing to take come down on their share if they can have something else in return....

Also I have seen it done to feel out exactly how bad the other side wants the fight and what leverage they really have....

There are a ton of reasons and of course I do not know exactly why...But there is usally logic behind things like that and it is usually not so much a money issue as a barginning issue...

We have all haggled in our life I am suspecting so kind of in that manner just on a larger scale....

I have seen guys in the past take less to get the venue choice, gloves, length of training camp, catch weight, willingness to allow extra weight...and so on...

I am guessing on it all assuming there is an angle.....

OR

I am totally wrong and Pacquiao is just not thinking right but I still want to stand on the first thought uintill I hear more from the camps of both

[Conrad]

Personally I still think the fight will happen, Hatton's people are calling Pac's bluff by opening talks elsewhere. I don't doubt Hatton will be looking at a PBF rematch or ODLH but they've still left the door open by saying until something has been signed the offer is still there for Manny.

I wouldn't be surprised if by the time Pac is back in States both Roach and Arum have talked some sense into him and the fight gets made.

I also don't think Pac is scared of Hatton for one second but Hatton's people should keep saying he is anyway until he agrees to fight. The plain simple truth is there isn't a better fight out there for either fighter!

[Boom Boom]

Fair enough man, I agree there could very well be other issues. The truth is we may never know exactly. I assumed the enue was the US, which neither is at a real advantage. The type of gloves could be a factor, or maybe its bad blood between Manny and GBP which is also a likely possibility. Its no secret that Manny doesnt like Richard Shaeffer and Im sure he knows that a Hatton fight would put money in team Golden Boys pockets. Who knows, I guess well have to see how it plays out. I still believe that Mayweather-Pac is going to be made.

[fan johnny]

It's probably BS by Pacquiao's people to fool Pacquiao. It has to go through TOP Rank because they are Pacquiao's Promoters.

Pacquiao's people to fool Pacquiao

How would that make sense?.....Why would Manny's people make up such a thing just to tell Manny....Who can easily find out if they lied to him

Money... Pacquiao's legal crew does not promote Pacquiao Top Rank does. That is why they don't want Manny to talk with Arum or Roach. You have to remember his status in the Philippines is much different than it is when he is in the US. He is like a President in the Philippines people around him are suppost to protect him but you will see that they also want to take advantage of his money and power that comes with his status. They want Arum and Roach out!

[DaxxKahn]

Fair enough man, I agree there could very well be other issues. The truth is we may never know exactly. I assumed the enue was the US, which neither is at a real advantage. The type of gloves could be a factor, or maybe its bad blood between Manny and GBP which is also a likely possibility. Its no secret that Manny doesnt like Richard Shaeffer and Im sure he knows that a Hatton fight would put money in team Golden Boys pockets. Who knows, I guess well have to see how it plays out. I still believe that Mayweather-Pac is going to be made.

Liike I said I could be wrong but just trying to think logic....

You have some other valid points with Shaeffer, GBP etc..

TBH I am surprised DLH did not try to acquire Pacquiao as a member of GBP...Like he has every other top fighter outside of PBF that has beaten him

[DaxxKahn]

It's probably BS by Pacquiao's people to fool Pacquiao. It has to go through TOP Rank because they are Pacquiao's Promoters.

Pacquiao's people to fool Pacquiao

How would that make sense?.....Why would Manny's people make up such a thing just to tell Manny....Who can easily find out if they lied to him

Money... Pacquiao's legal crew does not promote Pacquiao Top Rank does. That is why they don't want Manny to talk with Arum or Roach. You have to remember his status in the Philippines is much different than it is when he is in the US. He is like a President in the Philippines people around him are suppost to protect him but you will see that they also want to take advantage of his money and power that comes with his status. They want Arum and Roach out!

Kind of over the top there but OK