So many so called PBF supporters have short memories

[kingfrnk]

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

wrong again. Floyd was the first person to KO hatton who beat Kosta who had good punching power. and you say floyd doesnt have power I dont get it. He doesnt have that one punch ko power but he has enough power to ko some fighters.

Hatton is smaller than floyd, and the ring post did the extra damage for him. and you probably didn't even see nor do you seem to anything about KT. Because he had great punching power but was on his way out of the sport in fact that was his last fight. and had been in wars and like 35 or 36.

I've been watching PBF since he was an amateur, when he was 106lbs. His entire pro career. He is ducking shane. There's no manly justification in fighting oscar over shane, fighting judah over shane, fighting baldomir over shane. Judah ran from shane. And if floyd stays retired so did he. In fact I bet that right now he along with Ellerbe is coming up with a post fight excuse as to why he lost to Shane.

"I wasn't into the fight, my mind wasn't into the sport anymore i just did this for the fans. PBF is a true champion and i fight everybody, but I'm retiring again if i was still into the sport nobody would beat be"

Dude I already owned you in SRL ducking pryor...you might want to do some more research before jumping head first up pbf's ass.

you will never own me you retard. how the hell was floyd ducking shane when floyd was on his way up from 135 and 140 and mosley was fighting at 154 how the fuk is he ducking him when floyd wasnt even even in the same weight class (147) until he fought Mitchell while shane was fighting Vargas twice then floyd went up in weight to fight oscar in 07. you are a dumbass

[ICB]

Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

I really don't see your point about Floyd Mayweather being wobbled, thats the only time he has ever been wobbled and i have seen all of his fights, including quite a few of his Amateur fights.

The only other time he got shook was in a very early fight of his, where he got hit by a huge left hook but he soon recovered. DeMarcus Corley is a pretty decent puncher, i've seen him wobble fighters with one punch.

And he hit Floyd Mayweather with a very unorthodox shot/hard shot, it caught him off balance and Floyd Mayweather never see it coming, but Floyd Mayweather was still calm and he recovered in a matter of 20 seconds. And then he wobbled DeMarcus Corley later in the round.

Your seriously overrating Shane Mosley he is a great fighter and one of my favorites, but he has some serious flaws himself. He has at times got very disheartened/frustrated in fights especially in the Winky Wright fights.

I've never really see Shane Mosley be able to adapt in a fight either, in both the Winky Wright fights he was not able to solve the Winky Wright puzzle. And constantly got caught with the jab one of Shane Mosley's weaknesses.

Also in the Vernon Forrest fights even though he did do better in the very sloppy rematch. Again he couldn't deal with Vernon Forrest's clinching and was again outboxed and lost a decision.

What makes Floyd Mayweather special is that he is able to adapt, in any type of fight especially in his fights against Jose Luis Castillo 1 and 2, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya ETC.

You bring up that he lost 3 rounds against Zab Judah but again, is that the best possible argument you can come up with ? all i think is that fight showed Floyd Mayweather's greatness once again.

That he was able to overcome those first 3 bad rounds, and comeback solve the puzzle and give Zab Judah a beating. And he would of stopped him had it not been for the steet thug move from Zab Judah.

Again im reading your comments and your other argument makes no sense to me either. So he went 12 rounds with Carlos Baldomir and won 12 rounds to 0, i don't see how that prove's anything.

Carlos Baldomir is a very strong guy with a very good chin, he fought Vernon Forrest at Jr Middleweight and ate his shots up like they were nothing.

You also don't have a clue what your on about regarding Ricky Hatton, he isn't one dimensional and if you see his fight with Ben Tackie. When he had to box on the back foot and use his boxing skills, you would know he is far from one dimensional.

I also love how people dismiss Ricky Hatton considering he was one of the top 10 P4P fighters. It just seems to me no matter what Floyd Mayweather does he gets no credit.

Lastly i don't remember Sharmba Mitchell giving Floyd Mayweather any trouble ? i thought he mostly toyed with Sharmba Mitchell. He quite easily beat ODLH so i don't see your argument there at all.

He had a bad shoulder injury against Jose Luis Castillo in there 1st meeting, and in the rematch he quite comfortably beat him. Are you frigging kidding me or something ? when the hell did Carlos Baldomir, Arturo Gatti, hit Floyd Mayweather ?

Let alone alot are you out of your mind ? he dominated those fights with ease. Emanuel Augustus landed one punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose, it was a fluke and despite that one moment. He got whooped from pillar to post.

DeMarcus Corley had one decent round against Floyd Mayweather, but he lost the other 11 rounds and was dropped multiple times so again. I don't see that you have any good arguments here at all.

Shane Mosley had awkward/tough fights against Wilfredo Rivera, Phillip Holiday, in his prime. And lets not forget his gift against Oscar De La Hoya in the rematch, again what does this prove ? just like what does your comments prove ?

The only difference is that those fights you mentioned which were 7 fights, were supposedly Floyd Mayweather was hit alot or ETC. He only lost 13 rounds if that combined with all of those 7 fights, where as Shane Mosley lost more than that in those 3 fights i mentioned above.

But again it proves nothing styles make fights, both are great fighters. But i feel Floyd Mayweather is too much of a good all rounder, and is a better all round fighter than Shane Mosley. Shane Mosley's Power/Speed/Jab will make it very competitive. But i see Floyd Mayweather coming out on top with a competitive decision.

[Trainer Monkey]

Ice,I cant see him fighting again,he has his money,he has his legacy,and he never really seemed that in to it in the first place

[winscomeez]

Ice,I cant see him fighting again,he has his money,he has his legacy,and he never really seemed that in to it in the first place

WTF "never seemed into it" The guy devoted most of his life to developing his craft,a gym rat and superb condition proves he was into it!

[JT Rock]

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

I really don't see your point about Floyd Mayweather being wobbled, thats the only time he has ever been wobbled and i have seen all of his fights, including quite a few of his Amateur fights.

The only other time he got shook was in a very early fight of his, where he got hit by a huge left hook but he soon recovered. DeMarcus Corley is a pretty decent puncher, i've seen him wobble fighters with one punch.

And he hit Floyd Mayweather with a very unorthodox shot/hard shot, it caught him off balance and Floyd Mayweather never see it coming, but Floyd Mayweather was still calm and he recovered in a matter of 20 seconds. And then he wobbled DeMarcus Corley later in the round.

Your seriously overrating Shane Mosley he is a great fighter and one of my favorites, but he has some serious flaws himself. He has at times got very disheartened/frustrated in fights especially in the Winky Wright fights.

I've never really see Shane Mosley be able to adapt in a fight either, in both the Winky Wright fights he was not able to solve the Winky Wright puzzle. And constantly got caught with the jab one of Shane Mosley's weaknesses.

Also in the Vernon Forrest fights even though he did do better in the very sloppy rematch. Again he couldn't deal with Vernon Forrest's clinching and was again outboxed and lost a decision.

What makes Floyd Mayweather special is that he is able to adapt, in any type of fight especially in his fights against Jose Luis Castillo 1 and 2, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya ETC.

You bring up that he lost 3 rounds against Zab Judah but again, is that the best possible argument you can come up with ? all i think is that fight showed Floyd Mayweather's greatness once again.

That he was able to overcome those first 3 bad rounds, and comeback solve the puzzle and give Zab Judah a beating. And he would of stopped him had it not been for the steet thug move from Zab Judah.

Again im reading your comments and your other argument makes no sense to me either. So he went 12 rounds with Carlos Baldomir and won 12 rounds to 0, i don't see how that prove's anything.

Carlos Baldomir is a very strong guy with a very good chin, he fought Vernon Forrest at Jr Middleweight and ate his shots up like they were nothing.

You also don't have a clue what your on about regarding Ricky Hatton, he isn't one dimensional and if you see his fight with Ben Tackie. When he had to box on the back foot and use his boxing skills, you would know he is far from one dimensional.

I also love how people dismiss Ricky Hatton considering he was one of the top 10 P4P fighters. It just seems to me no matter what Floyd Mayweather does he gets no credit.

Lastly i don't remember Sharmba Mitchell giving Floyd Mayweather any trouble ? i thought he mostly toyed with Sharmba Mitchell. He quite easily beat ODLH so i don't see your argument there at all.

He had a bad shoulder injury against Jose Luis Castillo in there 1st meeting, and in the rematch he quite comfortably beat him. Are you frigging kidding me or something ? when the hell did Carlos Baldomir, Arturo Gatti, hit Floyd Mayweather ?

Let alone alot are you out of your mind ? he dominated those fights with ease. Emanuel Augustus landed one punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose, it was a fluke and despite that one moment. He got whooped from pillar to post.

DeMarcus Corley had one decent round against Floyd Mayweather, but he lost the other 11 rounds and was dropped multiple times so again. I don't see that you have any good arguments here at all.

Shane Mosley had awkward/tough fights against Wilfredo Rivera, Phillip Holiday, in his prime. And lets not forget his gift against Oscar De La Hoya in the rematch, again what does this prove ? just like what does your comments prove ?

The only difference is that those fights you mentioned which were 7 fights, were supposedly Floyd Mayweather was hit alot or ETC. He only lost 13 rounds if that combined with all of those 7 fights, where as Shane Mosley lost more than that in those 3 fights i mentioned above.

But again it proves nothing styles make fights, both are great fighters. But i feel Floyd Mayweather is too much of a good all rounder, and is a better all round fighter than Shane Mosley. Shane Mosley's Power/Speed/Jab will make it very competitive. But i see Floyd Mayweather coming out on top with a competitive decision.

This thread has me all fired up, because of the sheer ignorance of this dude... I only regret I cant Neg rep him 2 x today.. I couldnt have made those points better myself

[RP33]

Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

[Mar]

Everyone entitled to thier own opinion and any fight is a toss up no matter how much anyone thinks they know or don't know about the sport...especially after his fight against mayorga almost no one gave mosely a true chance and some darted against the grain and were right but there is also someone out there that probably picked dougles over tyson too, so what not worth getting heated over. Anyhow it's easy to remember the last thing you see...look how quickly so called berto collazo fight of the year is being forgotton did last a whole week though. I stand by my prediction although i'm on a bad streak of horrible picks even so floyd is the only one who can beat floyd, much props to shane but just a couple of weeks ago he was a guy who lost to cotto, and had problems till the 12 against mayorga, he beats tony now he can whoop mayweather ?? I'm not so sure. Williams beat tony too and can mayorga beat tony as well since he did last against shane oh but wait cotto proved looking at it from that angle means nothing. Shane deserves to move up in the rankings no doubt but he is one fight away just like cotto and tony before him just one loss and everyone will be praising someone new as the new floyd slayer.

[RP33]

Everyone entitled to thier own opinion and any fight is a toss up no matter how much anyone thinks they know or don't know about the sport...especially after his fight against mayorga almost no one gave mosely a true chance and some darted against the grain and were right but there is also someone out there that probably picked dougles over tyson too, so what not worth getting heated over. Anyhow it's easy to remember the last thing you see...look how quickly so called berto collazo fight of the year is being forgotton did last a whole week though. I stand by my prediction although i'm on a bad streak of horrible picks even so floyd is the only one who can beat floyd, much props to shane but just a couple of weeks ago he was a guy who lost to cotto, and had problems till the 12 against mayorga, he beats tony now he can whoop mayweather ?? I'm not so sure. Williams beat tony too and can mayorga beat tony as well since he did last against shane oh but wait cotto proved looking at it from that angle means nothing. Shane deserves to move up in the rankings no doubt but he is one fight away just like cotto and tony before him just one loss and everyone will be praising someone new as the new floyd slayer.

well put, and i agree.. I just literally CANNOT stand when someone makes a thread like this. Being so adament that Floyd will be beaten by Shane, or any fighter for that reason because of what he did a week ago. It's sort of like the whole Calzaghe thing. I'm still not a fan of Calzaghe the person, but respect his skills greatly. I've been wrong in picking against him and he always adapts to the fight that he is in. Floyd does the same thing. You can say whatever you want, but making stupid comments that Shane will hit Floyd in the middle of the ring all night is just stupid.

[JonesJrMayweather]

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

[RP33]

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

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The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

I wouldn't call Shane Mosley a pure boxer he's a boxer puncher, he doesn't have nowhere near the technical skills of Floyd Mayweather. I think your seriously fogetting Shane Mosley's flaws, which i pointed out to you on page 2.

You say Floyd Mayweather has never fought anyone like Shane Mosley, well remind me when has Shane Mosley ever fought a fighter like Floyd Mayweather ?

I also wouldn't say for 100 percent Shane Mosley has beaten better opposition overall. I'd say overall he has fought better opposition, but beaten is debatable.

They also say timing beats speed and i feel Floyd Mayweather, has much better timing and his countering skills are much better. He also has better technical skills, and he can adapt much better than Shane Mosley.

As for a mythical match up at 135 i still say Floyd Mayweather win's, he had alot of pop at that weight and he also had an excellent jab. Which is Shane Mosley's biggest weakness, and Floyd Mayweather would pop Shane Mosley with that jab all night.

It would be a terrific fight between them at any weightclass, but Floyd Mayweather IMO is too good of an all round fighter. And he has so many different gameplans that he can change while fighting its incredible.

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Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The thing is he won all those fights,and look at all the times he hurt Corley,and dropped him also.

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Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

There's no doubt that Shane would have a chance to beat Floyd, but what people truly tend to forget is the fact that there is a reason Floyd Mayweather was the top fighter in the world for so long. He's simply on another level than most world champions. No one, including Floyd, is unbeatable, but the notion that a fighter of his caliber will simply be dismantled is insane. A fighter would have to fight the perfect fight to beat him, and even still, he would most likely just barely beat him. People act as if Corley was the only person in history to lay a glove on Mayweather's head, and thus if anyone can merely connect, they will wobble him. That's just insane. Instead of looking at how many fights a fighter has had, try calculating approximately how many punches have been thrown at him. It's in the tens of thousands. If a guy's only been rocked one or two times out of 50,000 attempts, odds are he won't get caught. And let's not forget that Vargas, Mayorga, and Margarito ain't exactly carbon copies of Floyd Mayweather. I find it hard to believe that a guy who went over 5 years without even scoring a knockout is gonna seriously hurt arguably the greatest defensive fighter of this generation.

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Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

There's no doubt that Shane would have a chance to beat Floyd, but what people truly tend to forget is the fact that there is a reason Floyd Mayweather was the top fighter in the world for so long. He's simply on another level than most world champions. No one, including Floyd, is unbeatable, but the notion that a fighter of his caliber will simply be dismantled is insane. A fighter would have to fight the perfect fight to beat him, and even still, he would most likely just barely beat him. People act as if Corley was the only person in history to lay a glove on Mayweather's head, and thus if anyone can merely connect, they will wobble him. That's just insane. Instead of looking at how many fights a fighter has had, try calculating approximately how many punches have been thrown at him. It's in the tens of thousands. If a guy's only been rocked one or two times out of 50,000 attempts, odds are he won't get caught. And let's not forget that Vargas, Mayorga, and Margarito ain't exactly carbon copies of Floyd Mayweather. I find it hard to believe that a guy who went over 5 years without even scoring a knockout is gonna seriously hurt arguably the greatest defensive fighter of this generation.

I agree 1000000000000% and I am still riding the high of Shanes win and as a fan am nostalgic and what have you, but eventually people will sober up soon.. Like I said, people were dogging Floyd before about mentioning Shanes name and that he was past it etc... Now the notion that all of a sudden after beating up Margarito, which in about every Floyd fan knew Mayweather would comprehensivly beat Tony if they ever fought too, Shane all of a sudden is anybetter off tecnically than he was a few years ago is insane

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Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

Hahahaha, you're just spouting off at the mouth now. Didn't you already say most of this in the Mosley vs Mayweather thread? Hahahaha. Dude, Mayweather will not stand right in front of Shane for the entire fight. I don't know why you don't seem to understand this fact. Floyd isn't gonna try to bang with Shane, he'll outbox Shane. Floyd is a different type of fighter than Margarito. BTW, I have no idea why you think Floyd's left arm will get broken by Shane body shots. That would mean that Shane Mosley would be throwing right hooks to the body, and a right hook is not really a punch that an orthodox fighter throws. It's the left hook to the body man. Hahahaha. Also, Floyd's shell guard allows him to take the majority of the punishment on his elbows. I don't see how Shane is gonna break Floyd's ribs all of a sudden when he's never broken anyone's ribs before. Hahahaha. If Hatton, who is a murderous body puncher, couldn't even land one clean body shot on Floyd, I don't know how Mosley will all of a sudden break Floyd's ribs. Statements like that are fucking idiotic. Mayweather hardly gets hit with the type of surprising body shot that causes damage.

Also, Floyd got caught against Corley. BTW, he was just buzzed. Corley also caught Cotto too. It's not because those guys don't have chins, it's because Corley is a SOUTHPAW and the punches are coming from angles they're not used to. Floyd and Cotto got caught against Judah (A SOUTHPAW) too. Everyone has troubles with southpaws. Shane Mosley is an orthodox fighter so Floyd will be used to the punches. BTW, stop making Mosley out to be a monster at 147. Margarito got KTFO because he was coming forward taking the full impact of punches because he thought he could walk through them for 12 rounds like he did Cotto. But he forgot that Shane's handspeed is fast and some of those shots he couldn't see. Floyd will not come forward with no head movement ready to take the full impact of Shane's punches. Shane will have to come forward to create his opportunities against Floyd and he'll get counterpunched and outboxed for the majority of the fight.

I think that if the fight happened man, you'd actually be surprised by how much Floyd lands offensively because Shane's so focused on offense and hardly uses any head movement. Floyd's gonna set traps, counterpunch, tie Mosley up, get to the center of the ring, and repeat the sequence for the majority of 12 rounds.