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    Default Re: Where would you rank these guys all time?

    Ricardo Lopez - Around 25ish all time. His problem was his size. Not enough coverage.

    Joe Calzaghe - Barring Lennox the greatest british fighter of all time. World maybe 20th.

    Bernard Hopkins - Very similar ranking to Calzaghe but a place above.

    Manny Pacquaio - Still has a bit to do but i'd say top 50.

    Juan Manuel Marquez - Same as Pacquiao.

    James Toney - I'd say top 100. If he'd stayed around LHW and kept in shape maybe higher.

    Sugar Shane Mosley - Again top 50 but he could rise if he repeats his last performance.

    Roy Jones - The only man in this list that makes the top 10 for me. He was so naturally gifted that he could do pretty much what he wanted in the ring in his prime and it was a real shame to see his fall from grace. Hopefully he wins next week and goes out on a high!

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    Default Re: Where would you rank these guys all time?

    Well to be honest i say Jones is ranked near were Mosley and Hopkins are mean he had good wins but he also fought some cans as well i would say. And his loses also hurt his legacy i would not rate him in the top10 maybe some where in the top 30 or somthing like that though.
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    Default Re: Where would you rank these guys all time?

    I def wouldn't have Hopkins as high as all you guys, my reasoning below.

    His biggest fights;

    Loss to RJJ
    Beats Trinidad (smaller guy moving up)
    Beats ODLH (as above)
    Loss to Taylor x 2 (could've one both)
    Beats Tarver (demolishes bigger guy)
    Beats Wright
    Loss to Calzaghe (close)
    Beats Pavlik (smaller guy - new kid on the block)

    For me this isn't a top 20 career, his best wins were against smaller guys, picking on the names moving up. His reign at Middle contained an awful lot of average guys - his or his era's fault?

    Tarver is never an opponent to have to point to when securing your legacy.

    Hopkins title run gets praised as much as Calzaghe's gets hammered - both are equally shoddy in my eyes.

    Neither he nor Calzaghe would be anywhere near that high for me.

    And the fact that he's old and still doing it is a reflection on his competition not how great he is in my eyes.

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