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    Default Re: Jones Jr. vs. Sheika Saturday ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    it will be truly sad if rjj loses again....the guy has a ton of cash so I dont think he is doing it for the money.....I think he cant let go....
    For certain it is becaus he can't let go...I seen him in an interview and he feels he has really never been betaen...Not just excuses but really believes that...This was a bit before the Calzaghe fight....

    Jones is o exception many many fightrs who had great careers sufer the same fate....

    I just hope he wakes up before he gets hurt...A loss to Sheika would really be an embaressment for him...A bigger embaressment then the one sided affair with Calzaghe
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man

    I think Jones stops Sheika and early, Sheika has a decent chin and if Jones can do that I dont think hes shot, not just yet anyway
    It not about the guys he fought, just watch Jones performance in the ring. His movement, coordination, etc. he is clearly past it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man

    I think Jones stops Sheika and early, Sheika has a decent chin and if Jones can do that I dont think hes shot, not just yet anyway
    It not about the guys he fought, just watch Jones performance in the ring. His movement, coordination, etc. he is clearly past it.
    He fought Ruiz and Woods exactly the same, he backed up to the ropes put the ear muffs on and tried rattling quick shots off, against better fighters like Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe, it isnt going to be enough but he will still get away with it against Sheika and a few others.

    I say if he beats Sheika good and proper and gets his fans all excited, let him have his chance against Dawson.

    In Jones eyes, he lost to the best pound for pound fighter around his weight, so its not that bad, if he feel he has a genuine chance against Dawson, who is anyone to argue?

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    Default Re: Jones Jr. vs. Sheika Saturday ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man

    I think Jones stops Sheika and early, Sheika has a decent chin and if Jones can do that I dont think hes shot, not just yet anyway
    It not about the guys he fought, just watch Jones performance in the ring. His movement, coordination, etc. he is clearly past it.
    He fought Ruiz and Woods exactly the same, he backed up to the ropes put the ear muffs on and tried rattling quick shots off, against better fighters like Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe, it isnt going to be enough but he will still get away with it against Sheika and a few others.

    I say if he beats Sheika good and proper and gets his fans all excited, let him have his chance against Dawson.

    In Jones eyes, he lost to the best pound for pound fighter around his weight, so its not that bad, if he feel he has a genuine chance against Dawson, who is anyone to argue?
    I'll argue, the are a number of reasons that Sheika who is battle torn himself might not be able to perform
    #1 his left hand, high probability of re-injury
    #2 his right hand, high probability of re-injury
    #3 his knee, high probability of re-injury
    #4 slowed reactions

    No I don't think there is anything in a win over Sheika, that would give any evidence of how he would do against a young, fast, accurate Dawson who is now in his prime. Sheika to Dawson are about as opposites as you can get in the ring.
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    Default Re: Jones Jr. vs. Sheika Saturday ?

    I think if RJJ was 50 he would still make Omar look like doggy doo. RJJ wins a UD.

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    Omar is totally shot. He has been in more wars than the Marines. Brutal stuff with Pemberton, Tate AND Eric Lucas has left HIM badly damaged IMO. At one time, he was a Rock N Rolla but no more. Joe Calzaghe didn't do him any good as well, but those two with Pemberton were career enders for certain. No one should take that kind of punishment.

    Roy could take him out early with a flurry, or play with him and get a UD. Either way, don't bet on Omar.

    As an aside, I still hold that Roy's demise was due to his weight gain to fight Ruiz and then his loss of muscle mass to fight Tarver. The Roy who fought JC was just too old and slow and could not pull the trigger.

    One other thing, the fact that Omar lost to Tony Booth in 1998 has to be one of the tryly astonishing upsets. Tony is now at 52-105-9, but was 28-44-7 when he beat Sheika by UD in the UK!!! Omar then went on a tear before he fought JC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Omar is totally shot. He has been in more wars than the Marines. Brutal stuff with Pemberton, Tate AND Eric Lucas has left HIM badly damaged IMO. At one time, he was a Rock N Rolla but no more. Joe Calzaghe didn't do him any good as well, but those two with Pemberton were career enders for certain. No one should take that kind of punishment.

    Roy could take him out early with a flurry, or play with him and get a UD. Either way, don't bet on Omar.

    As an aside, I still hold that Roy's demise was due to his weight gain to fight Ruiz and then his loss of muscle mass to fight Tarver. The Roy who fought JC was just too old and slow and could not pull the trigger.

    One other thing, the fact that Omar lost to Tony Booth in 1998 has to be one of the tryly astonishing upsets. Tony is now at 52-105-9, but was 28-44-7 when he beat Sheika by UD in the UK!!! Omar then went on a tear before he fought JC.
    Have you seen the pics for this one?Both look all off,Omar puffy and soft.I fear that Jones will go out and get him with one-twos,enough to make the crowd ooooo and ahhhh and convince himself that hes ready for another huge name and major fight.I dont think he continues for the money....maybe stubourness,ego,pride,passion....all of which may end up getting him damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Omar is totally shot. He has been in more wars than the Marines. Brutal stuff with Pemberton, Tate AND Eric Lucas has left HIM badly damaged IMO. At one time, he was a Rock N Rolla but no more. Joe Calzaghe didn't do him any good as well, but those two with Pemberton were career enders for certain. No one should take that kind of punishment.

    Roy could take him out early with a flurry, or play with him and get a UD. Either way, don't bet on Omar.

    As an aside, I still hold that Roy's demise was due to his weight gain to fight Ruiz and then his loss of muscle mass to fight Tarver. The Roy who fought JC was just too old and slow and could not pull the trigger.

    One other thing, the fact that Omar lost to Tony Booth in 1998 has to be one of the tryly astonishing upsets. Tony is now at 52-105-9, but was 28-44-7 when he beat Sheika by UD in the UK!!! Omar then went on a tear before he fought JC.
    Have you seen the pics for this one?Both look all off,Omar puffy and soft.I fear that Jones will go out and get him with one-twos,enough to make the crowd ooooo and ahhhh and convince himself that hes ready for another huge name and major fight.I dont think he continues for the money....maybe stubourness,ego,pride,passion....all of which may end up getting him damaged.

    Very sad indeed. Reminds me of Gerrie Coetzee-Iran Barkley but at a higher level.

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    Anyone got links for it??

    I still love Roy and hes been my fav since the Toney fight. He was a freak of nature in his hey day. Jumping hooks, insane combos, lead right hands, 4 or 5 hooks in a row, dancing while punching. IMO no one is even close.

    I was hoping hed retire after beating Ruiz..lol, but its very rare that anyone goes out on top. So i just hope he puts on a show tonight and hangs em up while hes still healthy. Id love to see him go back to commentating.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWnM...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesrman View Post
    Anyone got links for it??
    I posted it in your thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wesrman View Post
    Anyone got links for it??

    I still love Roy and hes been my fav since the Toney fight. He was a freak of nature in his hey day. Jumping hooks, insane combos, lead right hands, 4 or 5 hooks in a row, dancing while punching. IMO no one is even close.

    I was hoping hed retire after beating Ruiz..lol, but its very rare that anyone goes out on top. So i just hope he puts on a show tonight and hangs em up while hes still healthy. Id love to see him go back to commentating.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWnM...eature=related
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    I know you're new, but do not post links on the main board. It pretty much ensures that they will be shut down.
    Last edited by CFH; 03-22-2009 at 12:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wesrman View Post
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    There still doing their porno...their Man on Man Action porno still.
    I know you're new, but do not post links on the main board. It pretty much ensures that they will be shut down.
    Oh dang, my fault I'll edit my post without the link. My fault.

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    LOL @ CFH quoting the link. You should erase it too. :P


    Thanks for the thought anyway Earthquake.

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    Roy used to be good but cutting that weight didn't do him any favors...he is out of power, he can't take a punch, he's a lot slower, and he lost that IT factor he had.

    I think the Tarver loss hurt him and all but the Johnson loss really messed him up mentally, losing to Johnson is what has kept him going and doing all this. Now he's looking for a key win to retire on IMO, kind of like he COULD have done vs John Ruiz or vs Tarver the first time.

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