inline vs wider

[Fenster]

remembered.

[Fenster]

Scrap, what did you think of that journos book?

[Youngblood]

The biggest and most noticable difference I've seen is in sparring MMA guys. Some of these guys were very good too at their game, but for pure boxing were so square due to that sports requirements it was amazing how easy it was to pick them off. Their whole target range seems to be doubled on them and especially when they are coming forward.

As well, the wider they are, the more predictable I find. But I spose it is subjective to how fast and good the person is. Am guessing some square fighters get away with it ok due to incredible speed.

[cocobeware]

I feel most comfortable shoulder width apart as i fell it gives me a good solid feeling to my stance.Heres a link to that freddie roach video you can watch it in full...zSHARE - Roach_s Fundamentals of Boxing.avi

[Scrap]

Im from the same school of thought as Freddie, like Him as a person. Worked in the same gym for a bit with Eddie, loved the Guy and His methods, but do things a bit different. Asked me to the States a few times but was happy where I was. Fenster Johns a mate and a very clever chap great Journalist loves a Drink .

[Fenster]

Scrap - sorry i meant Dave Matthews book not Rendall's (incidently what happened to his Tyson book?).

I read Matthews book recently, was wondering what you thought about it?

[Scrap]

Johns Book has had troubles getting the green light. Dave told a few Porkys but was sorry He told me, but it was well written

[Fenster]

Its a good read Scrap, paints you in a nice light.

Considering all the quality fighters you've trained, Matthews puts across in the book you treating everyone the same, do you think you have a particular training style that is evident in the guys you've dealt with?

[Scrap]

Try and treat them as individuals, everybodys different. But theres got to be a pattern, work on the basic foundations, the feet. If they are wrong as in anything it fails. I explain would they Buy a House with Bad Foundations, like everyone they wouldnt. If you cant do the simple things youve no chance when it gets Hard

[Scrap]

Mark I think so.

[Fenster]

Try and treat them as individuals, everybodys different. But theres got to be a pattern, work on the basic foundations, the feet. If they are wrong as in anything it fails. I explain would they Buy a House with Bad Foundations, like everyone they wouldnt. If you cant do the simple things youve no chance when it gets Hard

It would have been interesting to see Matthews considering you started him from scratch.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

The biggest and most noticable difference I've seen is in sparring MMA guys. Some of these guys were very good too at their game, but for pure boxing were so square due to that sports requirements it was amazing how easy it was to pick them off. Their whole target range seems to be doubled on them and especially when they are coming forward.

As well, the wider they are, the more predictable I find. But I spose it is subjective to how fast and good the person is. Am guessing some square fighters get away with it ok due to incredible speed.

YG. There stance is wider/square for a reason because their front leg is a target for kicks and takedowns. The same way in a boxing stance the front leg/knee would get the snot kicked out of it (unless your footwork is good and you understand range).

[Youngblood]

The biggest and most noticable difference I've seen is in sparring MMA guys. Some of these guys were very good too at their game, but for pure boxing were so square due to that sports requirements it was amazing how easy it was to pick them off. Their whole target range seems to be doubled on them and especially when they are coming forward.

As well, the wider they are, the more predictable I find. But I spose it is subjective to how fast and good the person is. Am guessing some square fighters get away with it ok due to incredible speed.

YG. There stance is wider/square for a reason because their front leg is a target for kicks and takedowns. The same way in a boxing stance the front leg/knee would get the snot kicked out of it (unless your footwork is good and you understand range).

Ya Missy, I understand why they are wider. Last summer we first had these pro MMA guys show up at our gym for stand up experience, and I knew a few of them were really good and was shitting myself a bit before having to spar them. The point I am making is that I found out then because of their need to be wide, and even if they are good at their sport, that square wide stance is a huge disadvantage when it came to pure boxing. It surprised me how much of a difference it actually made in both their defence and effectiveness in striking.

[cocobeware]

So should i be ok fighting from a shoulder width apart stance?Perhaps getting a little wider on the inside to get more leverage on hooks and upercuts and even stightly narrower if need be when backing up with the jab?

[twoohands]

The first thing my coach taught me was the stance. He showed me 2 different stances. One stance was at shoulder width apart, which you can move in all directions which is the attacking stance.
He also taught us the single stance or the single line stance which is more a defensive stance. Which you can cross block and shoulder roll out off. But is harder to throw a right cross unless you step your lead foot across into the attacking stance as you throw the right cross.
I dont think you should choose one of the stances i think you should use both, depending which one will give you better balance in the situation.