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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Oscar is a bit like Nike, all show and no substance. He has lost the major fights in his career and his best fight was against Vargas.
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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Oscar is a bit like Nike, all show and no substance. He has lost the major fights in his career and his best fight was against Vargas.
    Disagree. I thought his best fight was against Trinidad, he really boxed circles around him. Even when DLH was gassed in the last few rounds, Trinidad couldn't really touch him. DLH was very good in the second fight against Mosely also. Same thing, he was gassed in the last couple rounds but still outboxed him on the whole. He's had some bad luck with the decisions.

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    I just have never been able to get over those last few rounds in with Tito.Man looked spectacular but closed shop before the final bell,took it all for granted.Might be unfair but I think he earned that loss.Had Mosley taking it in 1st and 2nd.Thought Lampleys call of the 2nd was one of the most biased I have heard.It was sickning.He was boxing well but Mosley was moving him,having much more effect I believe.Favorite was his scrap with Quartey.He went all out.What a fight that was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Oscar is a bit like Nike, all show and no substance. He has lost the major fights in his career and his best fight was against Vargas.
    Disagree. I thought his best fight was against Trinidad, he really boxed circles around him. Even when DLH was gassed in the last few rounds, Trinidad couldn't really touch him. DLH was very good in the second fight against Mosely also. Same thing, he was gassed in the last couple rounds but still outboxed him on the whole. He's had some bad luck with the decisions.
    Oscar has had his gifts as well, Strum being the best example. No way can ODH compete with JCC, MAB and Morales.
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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Im beggining to think JMM is the greatest boxer of mexico.

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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Im beggining to think JMM is the greatest boxer of mexico.
    JR, your def. not alone in that thought.

    Here's what my list looked like in 2007
    If I had to re-make that list today I would start with putting JMM at #5 and slide everyone down 1 spot.
    Leaving "Chiquita" Gonzalez out.
    I have also learned a lot more on Saldivar and would move Saldivar up one and MAB up one and would drop Canto to #10.


    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Here's my top 10 Mexican fighters.

    1. JCC
    2. 'Finito' Lopez
    3. Olivares
    4. Sanchez
    5. Roman
    6. Erik
    7. Canto
    8. Saldivar
    9. MAB
    10. 'Chiquita' (Vastly overlooked in the All-Times lists)

    *Depending how JMM, Montiel, Rafa & Izzy close out their respective careers I think either one could potentially slip into the top 10.

    Honors: Zaragoza, Zarate, Efren, Pintor, Medina, 'Santa Tokyo', 'Cobrita', Arce, Zurita, Kid Azteca, Rafa, Izzy, Herrera, Montiel, Mijares, Solis, Cazares, "Yaqui", Arizmendi, "Raton", Villasana.

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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Too many great Mexican fighters of days old to even begin to name who was best...Almost impossible

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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Well tito never said i dont do that but does not change the fact that you bag on JCC regardless all i said is its you what did they expect lol. Not saying its a bad thing just saying thats the way you are. I do the same thing i be shocked if you said anything good about JCC. All i was saying be even more shocked if you said something good about Oscar Dela Hoya all i was getting at is when someone brings them up those guys say the same shit like there overrated or they did not do as good as people say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well tito never said i dont do that but does not change the fact that you bag on JCC regardless all i said is its you what did they expect lol. Not saying its a bad thing just saying thats the way you are. I do the same thing i be shocked if you said anything good about JCC. All i was saying be even more shocked if you said something good about Oscar Dela Hoya all i was getting at is when someone brings them up those guys say the same shit like there overrated or they did not do as good as people say.
    I've said good things about both fighters. You just choose not to read them. See my previous post on this thread, where I give JCC his props. Of course, I also present some arguments against his being annointed God by some near-sighted fans.

    Now... on the subject of DLH, just don't expect me to sign up for his Fan Club (LOL).


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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Magarita lacks defense but compensates with plaster

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    Default Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

    Quote Originally Posted by scraptime View Post
    Without a doubt in my opinion, Ricardo " Finito " Lopez has been the most skilled and talented fighter to come out of Mexico. Although not having too many amateur fights his record was still pretty respectable at 37-1 as an amateur. His professional record spoke for itself, having 51 victories, 1 draw, and no defeats! He defended the WBC straw-weight championship 22 times. He also won the WBA and WBO championships in that same division. He moved up and won the IBF Lt. Flyweight title and defended it twice before retitring.

    He holds the record for most consecutive " title " bouts without a loss in 26 straight!!!

    He is one of few fighters who hold these bragging right
    s. He had a distinctive skill for flowing smoothly in the ring and he had such an amazing defense. One of the best in my opinion. I would have liked to seen him against Michael Carbajal both in their prime!!!
    As much as i like Ricardo Lopez, using the word "Inarguably" is perhaps a little off the mark here. Two words (Salvador Sanchez) I'm sticking my neck out here because i love the Mexican fighters, Olivares, Barrera, Morales, Zarate all being favoruites of mine but Salvador Sanchez takes the title for me as the best Mexican fighter ever. He beats Danny Lopez twice at age 19 the first time round then beats Juan LaPorte and KO's Wilfredo Gomez and Azumah Nelson! Holy frijoles that's impressive!
    I have Finito in my top 3
    Sanchez
    Olivares
    Finito

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