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    Default Re: Mike Tyson was the hardest puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McDougall View Post
    He was as big as Foreman in weight, not height, Foreman admittedly weighed slightly more, but Tyson was a much more muscular man , a better boxer with greater speed

    Mikes solid weight , without any bodily fat varies between 216 and 220, Foreman at his very best, when he fought Mohammed Ali was only slightly heavier at 220

    I think if anyone could have knocked out Tyson at his best it would have been George Foreman, George dispensed with the great Joe Frazier twice with great ease.

    Frazier at his best was a much smaller less powerful boxer than Tyson , both were of similar hight. Joe weighed 205 Mike 220

    I do not agree that Ernie Shavers could hit as hard as Mike, he was knocked out by inferior boxers. Mike would have destroyed him

    Think at the great ease that Mike knocked out Larry Holmes, I know Larry was past his best but who else knocked out Larry in this fashion? Even at this stage Larry was still a great heavy weight boxer

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    did you ever see Foreman in his prime cause by saying Tyson was the more muscular fighter i kinda think you haven't

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    Default Re: Mike Tyson was the hardest puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McDougall View Post
    He was as big as Foreman in weight, not height, Foreman admittedly weighed slightly more, but Tyson was a much more muscular man , a better boxer with greater speed

    Mikes solid weight , without any bodily fat varies between 216 and 220, Foreman at his very best, when he fought Mohammed Ali was only slightly heavier at 220

    I think if anyone could have knocked out Tyson at his best it would have been George Foreman, George dispensed with the great Joe Frazier twice with great ease.

    Frazier at his best was a much smaller less powerful boxer than Tyson , both were of similar hight. Joe weighed 205 Mike 220

    I do not agree that Ernie Shavers could hit as hard as Mike, he was knocked out by inferior boxers. Mike would have destroyed him

    Think at the great ease that Mike knocked out Larry Holmes, I know Larry was past his best but who else knocked out Larry in this fashion? Even at this stage Larry was still a great heavy weight boxer

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    Being a big puncher has nothing to do with how good a boxer they are. Watch Earnie Shavers in action, I've no doubt Tyson destroys him, but if he got caught by Shavers it could have been night night. Foreman used to leave dents in huge heavy bags, he hit so hard. Also I'm assuming prime-Tyson is pre-prison Tyson yes? Because I'm sure a fella called Buster Douglas took him out then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McDougall View Post
    He was as big as Foreman in weight, not height, Foreman admittedly weighed slightly more, but Tyson was a much more muscular man , a better boxer with greater speed

    Mikes solid weight , without any bodily fat varies between 216 and 220, Foreman at his very best, when he fought Mohammed Ali was only slightly heavier at 220

    I think if anyone could have knocked out Tyson at his best it would have been George Foreman, George dispensed with the great Joe Frazier twice with great ease.

    Frazier at his best was a much smaller less powerful boxer than Tyson , both were of similar hight. Joe weighed 205 Mike 220

    I do not agree that Ernie Shavers could hit as hard as Mike, he was knocked out by inferior boxers. Mike would have destroyed him

    Think at the great ease that Mike knocked out Larry Holmes, I know Larry was past his best but who else knocked out Larry in this fashion? Even at this stage Larry was still a great heavy weight boxer

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    Being a big puncher has nothing to do with how good a boxer they are. Watch Earnie Shavers in action, I've no doubt Tyson destroys him, but if he got caught by Shavers it could have been night night. Foreman used to leave dents in huge heavy bags, he hit so hard. Also I'm assuming prime-Tyson is pre-prison Tyson yes? Because I'm sure a fella called Buster Douglas took him out then.
    honestly i think old Foreman still would beat Tyson

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    Default Re: Mike Tyson was the hardest puncher ever?

    Nobody is saying Shavers is a better boxer than Tyson but yes he was a harder puncher...the bomb he landed on Holmes was insane and that Larry got up from it was even more crazy.

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    Floyd Paterson in the Top 10 hardest punchers in Heavyweight history? That shows a shocking lack of knowledge of heavyweight history. Never read anything like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Nobody is saying Shavers is a better boxer than Tyson but yes he was a harder puncher...the bomb he landed on Holmes was insane and that Larry got up from it was even more crazy.
    Yeah, there's a quote you can probably find on the net where Holmes says he still sees stars from that Shavers punch. Holmes had very good recuperative powers, as a champ he was staggered a few times, but always came back strong.

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    Man i am so sick of people saying how great a puncher Tyson was and how he was better then Foreman and all that crap just dont get it. Tyson knocked out old men and bums Foreman knocked out Atg and in quicker fashion sometimes all you got to do is look who they knocked out. And you while see by far that Foreman was knocking out the better men.

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    Default Re: Mike Tyson was the hardest puncher ever?

    Tysons def. one of the top hardest punchers not only in HW history but also All Time.

    However he is not THEE hardest puncher.

    Above Tyson all time I'd rate:

    "Bazooka" Gomez
    "Brown Bomber" Louis
    Shavers
    Marciano
    Fitzsimmons
    "The Mighty Atom" Wilde
    "The Hawk" Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McDougall View Post
    Hey I am new but a boxing fan of many years

    For the past few years I have concentrated on the heavy weights , over time

    By carefully watching videos and TV of great heavy weight fights over the the last century and even into this century of 2009 I am convinced at his best Mike Tyson was both the hardest puncher in heavy weight boxing history. And potentially the greatest of all time, until sadly his money grabbing wife mother in-law and Don King came in and messed up his boxing life

    He punched much like the great Joe Louis, short hard and accurate, but with much more power

    What people don't remember is he was bigger and stronger than the likes of Sonny Liston, as big as George Foreman in fact, but 100% dynamic muscle

    He was the most magnificent physical specimen ever to embrace the boxing arena and it still greatly saddens me that he was never allowed to fulfil his true awesome boxing potential


    George Foreman , a really nice guy, also was a very hard puncher maybe the next hardest after Tyson at his very best

    Tyson might have had problems with the very tall Foreman and his powerful clubbing punches. Foreman liked fighting shorter opponents and this might have been a factor if both had met at the very best

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    id have to say foreman, could of been tyson tho well never no. id love to get all the great heavy weights of yester year and get them on one of those electronic punch machines, then wed no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McDougall View Post
    Hey I am new but a boxing fan of many years

    For the past few years I have concentrated on the heavy weights , over time

    By carefully watching videos and TV of great heavy weight fights over the the last century and even into this century of 2009 I am convinced at his best Mike Tyson was both the hardest puncher in heavy weight boxing history. And potentially the greatest of all time, until sadly his money grabbing wife mother in-law and Don King came in and messed up his boxing life

    He punched much like the great Joe Louis, short hard and accurate, but with much more power

    What people don't remember is he was bigger and stronger than the likes of Sonny Liston, as big as George Foreman in fact, but 100% dynamic muscle

    He was the most magnificent physical specimen ever to embrace the boxing arena and it still greatly saddens me that he was never allowed to fulfil his true awesome boxing potential


    George Foreman , a really nice guy, also was a very hard puncher maybe the next hardest after Tyson at his very best

    Tyson might have had problems with the very tall Foreman and his powerful clubbing punches. Foreman liked fighting shorter opponents and this might have been a factor if both had met at the very best

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    mike tyson is one of the hardest hitters in hw history

    i have him no2 behind no1 big george forman

    a man who could break a punchingbag in 30 mins hit fucking hard
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    People are under rating Bruno's power. He fought a lot of bums but he could hit just as hard as Shavers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    People are under rating Bruno's power. He fought a lot of bums but he could hit just as hard as Shavers.

    Bruno was a bum himself, he fought Tyson after Tyson had reduced himself to a bum also. And even this grey shadow of Mike Tyson was able to stop him.

    Ernie Shavers could knock down walls, but he was a poor boxer but a much harder hitter than Bruno. I think Frank Bruno must be given credit as a good heavy weight

    Let me lay around with the ranking of the hardest punching heavy weight, not the greatest heavy weight remember, that is another debate
    1. Tyson
    2 Foreman
    3. Shavers
    4. Louis
    5 Liston
    6 Lewis
    7. Frazier
    8. Ali
    9. Norton
    10.Tua

    Mohammed Ali beat Foreman, Shavers, Liston, Norton with 2, 3,5 and 6 heck!! he beat five of the six on the list and you dont include him in the list of hardest punchers?

    Look at that list and move it around if youlike, maybe we can reach some sort of an agreement

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    Default Re: Mike Tyson was the hardest puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McDougall View Post
    Hey I am new but a boxing fan of many years

    For the past few years I have concentrated on the heavy weights , over time

    By carefully watching videos and TV of great heavy weight fights over the the last century and even into this century of 2009 I am convinced at his best Mike Tyson was both the hardest puncher in heavy weight boxing history. And potentially the greatest of all time, until sadly his money grabbing wife mother in-law and Don King came in and messed up his boxing life

    He punched much like the great Joe Louis, short hard and accurate, but with much more power

    What people don't remember is he was bigger and stronger than the likes of Sonny Liston, as big as George Foreman in fact, but 100% dynamic muscle

    He was the most magnificent physical specimen ever to embrace the boxing arena and it still greatly saddens me that he was never allowed to fulfil his true awesome boxing potential


    George Foreman , a really nice guy, also was a very hard puncher maybe the next hardest after Tyson at his very best

    Tyson might have had problems with the very tall Foreman and his powerful clubbing punches. Foreman liked fighting shorter opponents and this might have been a factor if both had met at the very best

    Alan of South Africa
    I think Messrs Muhammad Ali & Larry Holmes can answer this question:-

    Ali fought Earnie Shavers (plus a host of other big punchers) & said Earnie was the hardest puncher he had ever faced.

    Holmes fought both Shavers & Tyson & after the Tyson fight, someone asked Larry about the relative punch power of the 2 fighters: Larry replied, "Being hit by Tyson was like being hit by a Corvette, but being hit by Shavers was like being hit by a truck!"

    That should answer the question, although I do believe that Mike Tyson is the HW champ of the past that would most likely KO an iron chinned opponent due to his speed & combos, although he wasn't as heavy handed as Shavers or even Foreman.
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    I wonder what the next reincarnated thread of Tyson's power will be? Its all a matter of opinion and could go on all day about where he ranks power etc. I do not think he hit the hardest and his last few fights proved it when he teed off on Mcbride and Danny Williams. Personally I think Chris Byrd hit harder then Foreman, Tyson and even Shavers.

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    Default Re: Mike Tyson was the hardest puncher ever?

    There is no doubt that Mike Tyson was indeed the hardest puncher in the heavyweight division ! The one thing I've noticed in the last several years
    is no matter what Tyson has done outside of the ring it doesn't change his accomplishments in the ring. It's too bad that people can't admit that. This also includes his ability to almost decapitate his opponents. It wasn't until the last couple of years in his career that his abilities changed. He just simply lost interest in the sport ! Don't forget that this is the man most heavyweights avoided due to fear !

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