Damn Hatton, why why why!!!

[alexie_ros]

Why after catching a check left from "lil floyd" wouldnt he learn to stop lunging in? Why wouldn't he learn to put his hands up? Why wouldnt he learn to move his big head if he's going to walk right in?

I picked Hatton to win thinking he would learn these things with Sr in his corner...I picked him hoping floyd wouldnt take the easy fight with the smaller pacman...hoping that floyd would give shane the shot, but after seeing the improvement in pac's game...I'd say pacman and mosley are now the biggest threats to floyd...

Marquez only stands a chance if floyd's timing is off and manages to win enough early rounds..but i think floyd stops him late if he isnt rusty.

Let see it all at the end of the year...


PACMAN/MOSLEY vs PBF

PACMAN /MOSLEY vs CLOTTEY/COTTO

CLOTTEY/COTTO vs PBF

any of those would be fine by me...

BECAUSE HE HAD THE WRONG TRAINER BY HIS SIDE. MOST OF THE BLAME SHOULD BE ON MAYWEATHER AND HIS BIG MOUTH. LOL. AND HE HAS THE BALLS TO CALL HIMSELF THE BEST TRAINER? MAYBE HE SHOULD BE THE ONE TO CONSIDER RETIREMENT, COZ CLEARLY, HE CANT DELIVER.

[Gandalf]

stay with Billy Graham? it doesn't make sense sir,,,,still manny will destroy hatton....who train ricky hatton before? Billy Graham right? that's why even floyd sr. teach him to be a fast and defeinsive boxer it didnt work because Billy Graham teaching....hatton always hug his opponent then punch that's the hatton we know and once again we saw that in his fight againts pacman....so bottom line her is Billy Graham teach hatton in a wrong way of boxing.... Billy Graham is the worst trainer that british boxing ever had.....he just teach hatton how to "hug and punch" that's all......hatton just stay in england so you will win again...because your reffere there will tolarate the "hug and punch" style of yours....no one can beat the pac...

Graham had his limitations but Ricky became a world champion in two divisions and it took the best fighter in the world to stop him eventually. Hatton was taught how to box and it wasn't all punch clinch punch. Go and watch some early Hatton fights, he can fight a lot smarter and fluently than people give him credit for.

Manny is a special fighter, and you should be grateful for him. Attacking Graham solves nothing, he did very, very well with Ricky. It's attitudes like yours that detract from Manny, show a little respect.

[Dizaster]

stay with Billy Graham? it doesn't make sense sir,,,,still manny will destroy hatton....who train ricky hatton before? Billy Graham right? that's why even floyd sr. teach him to be a fast and defeinsive boxer it didnt work because Billy Graham teaching....hatton always hug his opponent then punch that's the hatton we know and once again we saw that in his fight againts pacman....so bottom line her is Billy Graham teach hatton in a wrong way of boxing.... Billy Graham is the worst trainer that british boxing ever had.....he just teach hatton how to "hug and punch" that's all......hatton just stay in england so you will win again...because your reffere there will tolarate the "hug and punch" style of yours....no one can beat the pac...

That's just silly... Not everyone is designed to fight the way PBF fights.. Billy Graham played up to Ricky's strengths.. And until PBF, who is possibly one of the most skilled fighters of our era, AND quite a bit bigger than Hatton, knocked him down,,,, Billy Graham's teachings weren't critized to much..
LIke I said, it played to Ricky's strengths.. If Hatton has trained with someone like Mayweather Sr from the start, he may never have even won a title...
Sometimes you have a style and ability to beat 90% of people out there, but that 10% will always have it over you...

Think of Margarito, on the night, he seems unstoppable and with his power and ability to take punches, he seemed invincible.. But Mosley showed what happens when you just meet your opposite... If Margarito had of learn to fight defensively from a trainer like Mayweather Sr, he may have never won a title either.. He may have never learn to attack his opponents in such a brutal way, and been picked off in fights....

Fact is, Ricky made the most of what he had, and there was just some guys who had the style an ability to have it over him..... No fault of Billy Graham, and not of Floyd Sr either..


And bare in mind, Hatton just didn't come in smart to that fight.. He was to impatient, to ready to put some hurt on pac as fast as possible, unwilling to take a round to feel out the speed and timing of the P4P #1 fighter in the world, and he got punished for it.. Simple as that in my opinion...

But I think he reached the pinacle of what he could achieve, and he did it by going head on with anything he came across... What the fuck more can you ask or expect from a boxer and his team...

[alexie_ros]

Mayweather is not concerned about hatton at all. He is just concerned about himself. It is always about him and how good a trainer he is. But clearly, he isnt. Hatton has a lot to give. He might not beat Pacquiao, but difinitely would have been a better boxer than what he showed us.

[halo1]

stay with Billy Graham? it doesn't make sense sir,,,,still manny will destroy hatton....who train ricky hatton before? Billy Graham right? that's why even floyd sr. teach him to be a fast and defeinsive boxer it didnt work because Billy Graham teaching....hatton always hug his opponent then punch that's the hatton we know and once again we saw that in his fight againts pacman....so bottom line her is Billy Graham teach hatton in a wrong way of boxing.... Billy Graham is the worst trainer that british boxing ever had.....he just teach hatton how to "hug and punch" that's all......hatton just stay in england so you will win again...because your reffere there will tolarate the "hug and punch" style of yours....no one can beat the pac...

Graham had his limitations but Ricky became a world champion in two divisions and it took the best fighter in the world to stop him eventually. Hatton was taught how to box and it wasn't all punch clinch punch. Go and watch some early Hatton fights, he can fight a lot smarter and fluently than people give him credit for.

Manny is a special fighter, and you should be grateful for him. Attacking Graham solves nothing, he did very, very well with Ricky. It's attitudes like yours that detract from Manny, show a little respect.

Totally agree with you mate. Ricky is far from shot. I think this loss will do him good. He will learn from it and prepare better in his next fight (learn better defense?). What he does after this devastating loss is what define the character of Ricky Hatton.
Manny is special...

[HattonTheHammer]

im guessing saksakmo`s account has been suspended??

as for his nobody can ever beat the pacman..............urgh........


erik morales, 2 fellow phillipinos and juan manuel marquez....TWICE


just to answer your question!!

[Dizaster]

im guessing saksakmo`s account has been suspended??

as for his nobody can ever beat the pacman..............urgh........


erik morales, 2 fellow phillipinos and juan manuel marquez....TWICE


just to answer your question!!

Exactly.. he's not unbeatable.. And has been clearly beaten in fights.. Why he's P4P #1 now though is how he's gone on with his career.. Moving up in weight and being as good as he has been has made him an all time great... He could have stayed at the lighter weights and continued to be a force for years and still be remembered as an amazing dominent fighter.. But he is paving his own way as he goes and doing everything he is capable of.. And if he goes up to fight Floyd and possibly even wins, and takes another high caliber fight like that, it puts him above Morales and anyone he lost to earlier in his career...

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Yeah, Hatton was the same ol Hatton if not worse. All this talk about improvement in boxing skills. I never seen it in the Malignaggi fight like they say. He was about as straight in as a fighter could be. No head movement, no angles, left hand low, lunging punches, etc. etc. etc. He'll learn that he'll never learn to box. I agree with Michael Moorer, Hatton is the most overrated fighter today.

Malignaggi boxes nothing like pac. He didn't pose a particular threat. If a fighter is not being aggressive it allows you the time to try and work on new stuff.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

im guessing saksakmo`s account has been suspended??

as for his nobody can ever beat the pacman..............urgh........


erik morales, 2 fellow phillipinos and juan manuel marquez....TWICE


just to answer your question!!

Exactly.. he's not unbeatable.. And has been clearly beaten in fights.. Why he's P4P #1 now though is how he's gone on with his career.. Moving up in weight and being as good as he has been has made him an all time great... He could have stayed at the lighter weights and continued to be a force for years and still be remembered as an amazing dominent fighter.. But he is paving his own way as he goes and doing everything he is capable of.. And if he goes up to fight Floyd and possibly even wins, and takes another high caliber fight like that, it puts him above Morales and anyone he lost to earlier in his career...

True. He can be outboxed and outfought. You just better have a decent chin....in fact anyone at the top better have a good chin. Alas Hatton did not.
For perspective. A weight drained and past his best Oscar got beat up for 8 rounds without touching down Hatton couldn't go 1 round.

[edwards]

fighting a left hander ,nerves and speed beat Ricky ,why retire he still has great record pac man has lost a few and what if maywheather gets beat do you think people will say retire NO! should retire and wanting to retire different.Ricky can carry on if he wants to he's still good enough .Remember both losses to pound for pound best.But i will say he shuoldn't fight a southpaw again he couldn't find qa way to open him up.Good luck to Ricky i hope to see him in action again

[Howlin Mad Missy]

It was horrible.

Hatton did almost everything that you really shouldn't be doing. Hands low, chin wide open, storming straight in, no head movement, no jab, loading up and missing with wild hooks.

Nothing was there for him and also his punch resistance was shot. Pac hasn't been blowing anybody away in two rounds. It's truly shocking that such a thing could happen at this level. It was bizarre and very upsetting. And I'm not talking Manny down becuase he did everything right. Kept his composure and picked Hatton off.

I'm still totally amazed by it all.

He was trying to hold Manny but his plan failed coz he couldn't manhandle Manny. Pacman was so elusive and fast, he makes fighters like hatton, Diaz and DLH look like amateurs. Props to Pac.

neg rep for that.

[brucelee]

It was horrible.

Hatton did almost everything that you really shouldn't be doing. Hands low, chin wide open, storming straight in, no head movement, no jab, loading up and missing with wild hooks.

Nothing was there for him and also his punch resistance was shot. Pac hasn't been blowing anybody away in two rounds. It's truly shocking that such a thing could happen at this level. It was bizarre and very upsetting. And I'm not talking Manny down becuase he did everything right. Kept his composure and picked Hatton off.

I'm still totally amazed by it all.

He was trying to hold Manny but his plan failed coz he couldn't manhandle Manny. Pacman was so elusive and fast, he makes fighters like hatton, Diaz and DLH look like amateurs. Props to Pac.

neg rep for that.

Thank you. you've just shown how ignorant you are. I said against pac,DLH LOOKED amateur. What's wrong with that? He was indeed schooled by Pac. Tell me if DLH was not schooled by Pac and I'll tell you that you haven't watched the fight.

Sad that you're still bitter about our little argument about Barrera and Khan. I could not think of any reason why you give the neg rep.

[britsday]

It was horrible.

Hatton did almost everything that you really shouldn't be doing. Hands low, chin wide open, storming straight in, no head movement, no jab, loading up and missing with wild hooks.

Nothing was there for him and also his punch resistance was shot. Pac hasn't been blowing anybody away in two rounds. It's truly shocking that such a thing could happen at this level. It was bizarre and very upsetting. And I'm not talking Manny down becuase he did everything right. Kept his composure and picked Hatton off.

I'm still totally amazed by it all.

He was trying to hold Manny but his plan failed coz he couldn't manhandle Manny. Pacman was so elusive and fast, he makes fighters like hatton, Diaz and DLH look like amateurs. Props to Pac.

amen to that! with all the prayer's and disciplined with his training this is all he got.hatton is a dirty boxer and just want to sleep in the canvass. bwahahaha...

[Howlin Mad Missy]

He was trying to hold Manny but his plan failed coz he couldn't manhandle Manny. Pacman was so elusive and fast, he makes fighters like hatton, Diaz and DLH look like amateurs. Props to Pac.

neg rep for that.

Thank you. you've just shown how ignorant you are. I said against pac,DLH LOOKED amateur. What's wrong with that? He was indeed schooled by Pac. Tell me if DLH was not schooled by Pac and I'll tell you that you haven't watched the fight.

Sad that you're still bitter about our little argument about Barrera and Khan. I could not think of any reason why you give the neg rep.

Because you're once again taking credit when it's not due and once again making pac fans looks like idiots. 99% of people agree that DLH was a weight drained shell and you think it's a great reflection on Pac.

& if I could sad click/neg rep you again for thinking that I've been waiting for an opportunity to neg rep you because of some preceived slur you've kept in your head for two months beggars belief. You're a sad little man.

[Mr140]

Hatton to me is a Gatti level fighter no more and no less and as far as chin goes he gets knocked out by pbf who is no ko master. Then gets destroyed by pac in a few rounds i mean Pac could not ever floor a shot Oscar and he was landing on him at will that all i really got to say.