Hey Pac,why not give this guy a fight?

[hitmanhatton]

Manny destroys Valero. Valero has no defence and is too slow. Manny seems to have grown into 140 quite quickly too.

remains to be seen.im hoping the fight will happen.

fight wont happen at this point, not enough money to be made for pac or arum

also valero lasts 3 rounds at the very most, not fast enough and his defence will lead to him being KTFO

[happytrip]

pre i believe valero is under arum or trains at the wildcard gym. thats why he is around pac lately.

the fight at macau didnt happen cause diaz, odlh is a better choice for pac. you got to understand also that there is a line of fighters eager to fight pac. and if you rank all of them valero is in last both in skill and profitabilty.

I know Valero is on Arum's fold pre.

Based on your info,i can understand that my requested fight is not likely to happen...thank you pre,maybe that is why Valero says he wants JMM ,in cebu presscon.

Nevertheless,i strongly believe VALERO is a worthy opponent for MANNY.Thing is he has no fan base and other elements for profitability.Well this is reality,this is pro boxing.

[The Congressman]

Valero has no head movement at all.

[Mar]

Valero has no head movement at all.

He hasn't needed it.

[hitmanhatton]

hasnt fought anyone who was good enough to exploit it yet ...

[happytrip]

If rumors that VALERO vs. Presscot will happen in july,i am hoping for a VALERO win.And i wish he gets attention for his feat.

Problem is he is not allowed to fight in NEVADA

[happytrip]

pre i believe valero is under arum or trains at the wildcard gym. thats why he is around pac lately.

the fight at macau didnt happen cause diaz, odlh is a better choice for pac. you got to understand also that there is a line of fighters eager to fight pac. and if you rank all of them valero is in last both in skill and profitabilty.

I forgot to inform that the MACAU figth did not push thru,because the PACQUIAO camp considers Valero dangerous.That is the reason.

In addition,the time that Arum was offering the Macau fight to Manny,it was still in the stage that manny was choosing who will be his promoter,Oscar or Arum.IMO,arum was out to kick out Manny from the elite group of boxers .Since no assurance of getting Manny into his fold,might as well destroy him.And VALERO ,is capable of doing this.But in the course of the shakey negos,somehow MANNY and ARUM have come to terms.I guess the settlement was consumated with the help of Wakee Salud,an Arum confidante and adviser to MANNY.

This is my side of the story.btw Wakkee Salud is the big chinese looking guy seen always in the ring on MANNY'S FIGHTS.

[happytrip]

Mind you,Valero was always hired as sparring partner to almost all of PAC's opponents.Barrera,Morales,JMM,ODLH,to name a few.Thing is he keeps on hurting these guys in sparing;result is he always lose his job.Have you heard stories of VALERO battering the 4 mentioned boxers in spar sessions?

Well these are unconfirmed stories,thing is he always seem to be fired out as a sparmate to these guys.

See?

[happytrip]

my wakee salud interview ,almost two years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxZXrt8jHZA

[C-Lo]

There would be no money in fighting Valero. No one outside of boxing fans know who he is.

Plus, Valero is in no way shape or form ready for Manny. He might be exposed once he fights a name rather than an elite fighter or even a decent one.

[happytrip]

There would be no money in fighting Valero. No one outside of boxing fans know who he is.

Plus, Valero is in no way shape or form ready for Manny. He might be exposed once he fights a name rather than an elite fighter or even a decent one.

Let us give the guy a chance,even in this forum only...let us wait for his next fight,hopefully against a seeded one like PRESSCOT.

Manny was afforded the chance by Barrera,remember?

[fan johnny]

Saying it is good for promoting Valero, actually coming around to fruition that a whole different story.

#1. It would totally crash Valero's potential with so many blows to the head, not to mention the health issue.

#2. He would get a crap payday for facing the #1 P4P guy on the Planet. Too much risk and not enough reward.

#3 While Valero has power, he doesn't have the ringmanship experience to be in the same ring as Manny and a whole list of fighters.

#4 The venue would be crap.

I could go on but that should be enough........

[happytrip]

Saying it is good for promoting Valero, actually coming around to fruition that a whole different story.

#1. It would totally crash Valero's potential with so many blows to the head, not to mention the health issue.

#2. He would get a crap payday for facing the #1 P4P guy on the Planet. Too much risk and not enough reward.

#3 While Valero has power, he doesn't have the ringmanship experience to be in the same ring as Manny and a whole list of fighters.

#4 The venue would be crap.

I could go on but that should be enough........

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[happytrip]

Time will tell who is right....this thread closed !thanks to all posters.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Pac has to give this guy a shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c_Y62LF8a0
Oh no! it's zzzzzzzzz end for pac!