Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

[TheDemolitionDan]

I don't think anybody is blaming Floyd Sr. Hatton just forgot everything he didn't keep his hands up and he moved his head a couple of times. Hatton just had an off night. He looked a little better in that second round and I think he had that round if the rounds were only 2:58 seconds. Sucks very much. I can't imagine how Hatton feels, I fuckin bawled like a bitch for all of saturday night and have felt like shit and I still feel like shit.

Pacquiao dominated both rounds, Hatton was barely landing anything in the second round.

May'be he was IDK I guess I was still in shock, but Hatton seemed to be using the jab more and looked a little better and looked a little more settled in in that round.

[Taeth]

I guess Pacquiao didn't dominate the second round hte same way, but he was the only one landing really clean punches and he was doing it pretty often, also you could see him timing that left hook over the jab, he barely missed a couple of times with it, and I was just waiting for that to happen, I didn't realize it would lay Hatton out like that though.

[Quinito]

Neither of them tried to make it as a boxing match. It was a 100% brawl. And the so called "the bigger man" was the one who got in trouble kissing the canvas 3 times.

[luvfightgame]

Not Mayweather's fault. But generally seems agreed upon that Mayweather looked like an ass from his behavior before and after the fight.

To me Hatton thought his speed was equal to Manny's so he stayed in range and tried to punch with him. Problem wasn't he didn't learn to move his head. He wanted to punch first and would get hit before he punched. Definitely bad game plan.

[Althugz]

People are actually surprised that the Hatton fans are AGAIN using a scapegoat for another defeat?

Sr's advice in the corner was perfectly clear - and valid. Hatton chose to ignore it.

Jim Watt said it best on the U.K commentary - 'Where is the new Ricky Hatton!?!?'...because he showed up for the Paulie fight but couldn't keep his cool for this fight.

Floyd Snr is classless? - guilty, but that doesn't equate to him being the reason that Hatton lost.

Billy Graham most certainly would not have made him look any better by putting on a fat suit and getting Ricky to tee off on him for preperation.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I guess Pacquiao didn't dominate the second round hte same way, but he was the only one landing really clean punches and he was doing it pretty often, also you could see him timing that left hook over the jab, he barely missed a couple of times with it, and I was just waiting for that to happen, I didn't realize it would lay Hatton out like that though.

Hatton did have a better round in the 2nd until the KO, even though Pacquiao was clearly winning, but yea apart from a good left hook up top on the inside from Hatton that wobbled Manny a bit, Hatton didn't do much in the whole fight

[rjj tszyu]

No blame can be placed on Mayweather. Hatton thought he could walk through Pac and nail him with left hooks and he was wrong, very wrong.

[fan johnny]

Ricky Hatton was not ready for the fight mentally. People have said his self indulgent attitude is an act to promote the fight but his action display otherwise.

While the ultimate blame may lie with Ricky, but with out any doubt Floyd Mayweather Sr. should to accept a percentage of the blame that he failed Ricky for this bout. Ricky's head was not in the right place. As a trainer and corner man he accepted the job and should have been aware of where is head was as part of any game plan. He failed to get Ricky in the right frame of mind and that's 50% the trainer's/cornerman's fault.

Even after the fight he didn't even pretend to show concern about his man. This characterization will haunt him should he continue to pursue boxing as a trainer. With that display of integrity, I don't think there is a top fighter other than Jr. who would think of having him in his corner. He ran out in the face of defeat. IMO, Any bad press he gets he deserves.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

If his trainer had not tried to alter anything or give him the tools to win then yes we could lay some blame his way.

Him running his mouth off has nothing to do with it. Roach talks as much crap.

Fact is for whatever reason Hatton acted like a bonehead. No head or body movement and charged in. When Pacs first lead hook landed that told me everything on how this fight would go.

Hatton has only himself to blame. It also shows the gulf between Hatton and the great fighters Pac has fought who were able to take those shots.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Ricky Hatton was not ready for the fight mentally. People have said his self indulgent attitude is an act to promote the fight but his action display otherwise.

While the ultimate blame may lie with Ricky, but with out any doubt Floyd Mayweather Sr. should to accept a percentage of the blame that he failed Ricky for this bout. Ricky's head was not in the right place. As a trainer and corner man he accepted the job and should have been aware of where is head was as part of any game plan. He failed to get Ricky in the right frame of mind and that's 50% the trainer's/cornerman's fault.

Even after the fight he didn't even pretend to show concern about his man. This characterization will haunt him should he continue to pursue boxing as a trainer. With that display of integrity, I don't think there is a top fighter other than Jr. who would think of having him in his corner. He ran out in the face of defeat. IMO, Any bad press he gets he deserves.

Possibly but I've seen good corner work in action, trying all sorts to get through to their man and I've seen a fighter mentally break in the corner. For some people I don't think there is anything a corner can do for them.
Maybe the years of Graham shouting in the corner trying to gee his man up was detrimental in the long term when a cooler headed Hatton was required?

[JonesJrMayweather]

people that are saying ricky should have stayed with graham, he's the one that allowed ricky to go for so long with all those bad habits...even when he was suffering from cuts, he never was told to start keeping his hands up..now that ricky is on the big stage his flaws are being exploited. Must be why they never put him in the ring with Junior witter, that lost would have surely saved him from these two embarassments and we'd be talking about how junior witter beat pac at 140 and lost to floyd at 147...

[ElTerribleMorales]

people that are saying ricky should have stayed with graham, he's the one that allowed ricky to go for so long with all those bad habits...even when he was suffering from cuts, he never was told to start keeping his hands up..now that ricky is on the big stage his flaws are being exploited. Must be why they never put him in the ring with Junior witter, that lost would have surely saved him from these two embarassments and we'd be talking about how junior witter beat pac at 140 and lost to floyd at 147...

Witter gets his ass handed to him just as bad as Ricky if not worse

[SweetPea]

Hatton's loss isn't Mayweather's fault. Hatton could have had Angelo Dundee and Eddie Futch working his corner and it wouldn't have made a difference. Or to put it another way, if Mayweather trained Pac and Roach trained Ricky, does anyone think Hatton wins? I sure don't.

Mayweather does deserve criticism for acting unprofessionally after the fight, but that's a separate discussion.

[blegit]

Hatton's loss isn't Mayweather's fault. Hatton could have had Angelo Dundee and Eddie Futch working his corner and it wouldn't have made a difference. Or to put it another way, if Mayweather trained Pac and Roach trained Ricky, does anyone think Hatton wins? I sure don't.

Mayweather does deserve criticism for acting unprofessionally after the fight, but that's a separate discussion.

That is a good way to put it and I totally agree. Hatton is the same ol' Hatton and he'll never learn to box. He is nothing but a smaller Jeff Lacy. He is in love with trying to brawl and overpower. It doesn't matter what you learn in training if you always go back to your same bad habits. I think that most any elite prime fighter who is agressive will put Hatton out in the first half of the fight. He is too hittable and even while getting hit he still does the same things.

[mattboxingfan]

Ricky didnt blame Floyd so we cant say he should take the blame because he has. Its everyone on this forum who are blaming Floyd and im not suprised because he os a right **** but it is really all on the fighter.