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    Default Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Interesting. Thats definitely a possibility, Cotto needs to get by Clottey first and that fight isn't going to be walk in the park.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Wadeb_21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Interesting. Thats definitely a possibility, Cotto needs to get by Clottey first and that fight isn't going to be walk in the park.
    Great point!

    Yeah I could see Floyd asking: "Who is Joshua Clottey? You mean the guy Margarito beat?"

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

    I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!
    LOL, thanks. Yeah you're right, Floyd won't think he needs to fight Cotto to get the winner of the Pac/Shane fight in 2010.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!
    i know how u feel C-lo. i really wish floyd would step it up in competition a bit and take on fighters like Cotto or Mosley. i can only hope that his next fight will be against an elite welter.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wadeb_21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Interesting. Thats definitely a possibility, Cotto needs to get by Clottey first and that fight isn't going to be walk in the park.
    Great point!

    Yeah I could see Floyd asking: "Who is Joshua Clottey? You mean the guy Margarito beat?"
    Speaking about Mayweather Jr (see below) Who care who beat who, Mayweather never beat Margarito, Cotto, Mosley or Clottey. Mayweather would probably say "Baldomir beat Clottey and I beat Baldomir".

    I hope Mosley/Pacquiao don't wait for PBF/JMM outcome before sealing the Deal!


    Shane Mosley Says He Deserves Pacquiao Fight | TheSweetScience.com Boxing
    Shane Mosley Says He Deserves Pacquiao Fight

    By David A. Avila
    When you conquer the king of the mountain, as Sugar Shane Mosley did a little more than four months ago, then you presume that the mountain is yours.

    The WBA welterweight king who defeated the feared former king Antonio Margarito is waiting for his coronation.

    Despite the incredible upset before more than 20,000 pro Margarito fans, Mosley may be passed over for the expected match with boxing’s best fighter Manny Pacquiao by other less-deserving fighters, including one who was retired.

    “It’s not fair,” Mosley says.

    If you know Mosley then you understand that he’s not the kind of fighter who cries and moans over bad decisions. Earlier in his career, despite advice to the contrary, he accepted fights against opponents that others ignored like Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright.

    Now, the Pomona native believes that he deserves a shot at the best fighter of all, Pacquiao.

    Talks between Mosley and Pacquiao’s camps have taken place but nothing has been agreed upon. One stipulation to make a fight between the two is Mosley dropping down in weight to 142 or 144 pounds.

    “I have to protect my fighter,” said Freddie Roach who trains and advises Pacquiao. “Shane Mosley and Manny would be the best fight for the fans. Both like to fight.”

    What Roach means is neither boxer likes to counterpunch or employs a defensive style a la Floyd Mayweather.

    Recently Mayweather un-retired and is now scheduled to fight Juan Manuel Marquez, a former Pacquiao nemesis.

    Mosley wonders why Mayweather gets all the breaks.

    “I’m tired of the public being fooled by him,” said Mosley of Mayweather, who fights Marquez on July 18 in Las Vegas. “People are accepting the games he is playing. He’s coming back because he needs the money.”

    At the press conference held to promote the Mayweather-Marquez fight, many asked why the former pound for pound king wouldn’t accept a fight with Mosley?

    Mayweather replied that he offered a fight with Mosley that was refused because of the timing. But subsequent offers have been rebuked by the Las Vegas fighter who last told Mosley during a baptismal party that he was retired and wanted to spend time with the family and had no plans to return.

    That turned out to be not true.

    When our reporters saw Mayweather sparring in the gym and sent other investigators to check out the scene, the Mayweather camp kicked out our photographer and then said rumors of Mayweather sparring were not true.

    Basically, you can’t believe a single word coming out of the Mayweather camp.

    “He wants to wait until I’m 42,” said Mosley.

    Next week Miguel Cotto fights Joshua Clottey in a match between two Top Rank fighters. It’s hoped that Cotto wins so that a match between the popular Puerto Rican boxer can be made with Pacquiao.

    It’s another thing that miffs Mosley.

    “I beat the best welterweight in our time (Margarito) and I beat him in spectacular fashion,” says Mosley, adding that Margarito crushed Cotto and the Puerto Rican beat the Pomona fighter by debatable decision. “If Cotto beats Clottey let him fight Margarito in a round robin tournament. I’m the welterweight champion.”

    That’s a good point.

    Mosley says that internationally he has a bigger name than Cotto or Mayweather.

    “People know me all over the world,” said Mosley who often travels to Asia. “Even in Singapore, Australia, all the way in India, Mali, they know me all over the world. It’s not me just saying that. They watch my fights. I’m a boxing household name in England, and the Philippines. They know what I can do, they know my work.”

    The best fight for fans in Mosley’s estimation is a showdown with boxing’s current pound for pound champion Pacquiao.

    “I always keep myself in shape,” said Mosley who is currently in Big Bear Mountain where he normally trains before fights. “I love the feeling of being in shape.”

    Mosley says he will try and see if his body can drop down to 142 or lower. No other fighter in the world piques the Pomona fighter’s interest than Pacquiao. He knows Mayweather will never fight him due to fear of losing. But Pacquiao is another story.

    “Pacquiao is a real fighter,” Mosley says. “I’m the number one welterweight.”

    It’s the fight most fans dream about.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    I favor Mosley by ko/tko in this fight. Styles make fights and Mosley has a good style to put Pac in serious trouble. Manny hasnt fought an elite fighter yet above 130 with the speed, skill, or power of Mosley. Oscar had skill but they were diminished when he fought Pac. I still think that Mosley is on the slide and that he has been showing signs of age dispite his great performance against Margarito. This is where I think the public will be fooled. What will happen after this fight is Mosley-Mayweather and I think by then people will favor Mosley, but not acknowlege that he is getting old ond on the downslide. But, who can blame them if he beats Margarito and Pac back to back. Mayweather would be an intriguing fight, but I dont think we will be dealing with the best version of Mosley by then, as he ist the best version of himself now imo. I would rather see a prime Pac fight Mayweather, but this fight will derail that fight imo. I think because of this fight we wont see Pac-Floyd, and its too bad because instead we will likely see Floyd beat an old man and claim greatness after. And most will believe him.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    My hearts tells me Manny Pacquiao will win this fight but my brain tells me Mosley will win... I don't know.

    But the real deal is.

    If Manny Pacquiao wins this one. The critics will say:

    Oh Manny Pacquiao wins because his to old

    or

    Oh Shane Mosley is dehydrated!

    or

    Oh Shane Mosley is not in his prime anymore.

    I sick and tired hearing this thing. No matter how many excuses the critics made. Manny Pacquiao is already an All Time Great.

    In case this are the reasons why Pacquiao wins. Let Me say this to critics - SHAME ON YOU!

    Manny Pacquiao fought BIGGER opponents and you don't credit that? SH*T What a as* Hole!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Bring it on!!!

    I don't like this catch weight nonsense at all, but Mosley will have seen DLH and will be well aware of what he can and can't do. Hopefully 145 as he is giving up a lot of the purse.

    My only concern is Mosleys inactivity and age whilst making this weight. But having said that he is bigger, faster and more canny than any of Pacs more recent opponents. I hope he does a real number on Manny.

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