Possibly Valero vs. Casamayor in September in Vegas

[Spicoli]

But think age and the way Joel was savaged by JMM. The first guy who willl be Valero in my opinion will be someone who comes in fast between his wide shots and open chin. Kind of like what Juan Manuel Lopez did to Ponce de Leon. I just don't see JC being able to do that......but now you all have me wondering.

I can see a Soto turning the tables on Valero,long fast starter as of late and enough power to ruin a vacation.

Remember ol vet Penalosa endured a Ponce onslaught and had him clueless and flat hitable in the late rounds also.Cards lied in that one chief .Two ways to skin a kat.

[OumaFan]

Soto beats Valero probably, prime Casa handles Valero and beats him up in the later rounds.

This Casa gets hammered. Or at the least is put on the defensive too much to win the fight. I have very little doubt. Maybe we'll see although I'd be a bit surprised if this comes off.

[OumaFan]

Penalosa did beat Ponce IMO.

[hardcore_crash]

This is a good fight IMO and a lot more fans are going to find out if the Valero hype is for real depending on how the fight with Casamayor goes down.
But Casa had never been stopped until he fought Marquez so I'm not sure if I want to say that Valero can stop him, though he does have some heavy hands.

[XaduBoxer]

Valero will add another almost 40ish boxer in his KO list...
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[holmcall]

[quote=Spicoli;747258]

But think age and the way Joel was savaged by JMM. The first guy who willl be Valero in my opinion will be someone who comes in fast between his wide shots and open chin. Kind of like what Juan Manuel Lopez did to Ponce de Leon. I just don't see JC being able to do that......but now you all have me wondering.

I can see a Soto turning the tables on Valero,long fast starter as of late and enough power to ruin a vacation.

Remember ol vet Penalosa endured a Ponce onslaught and had him clueless and flat hitable in the late rounds also.Cards lied in that one chief .Two ways to skin a kat.[/quote

Ponce and Valeo are friends and train together in LA where Valero is a gym legend due to his incredible non-stop training techniques. However, they both have the same weakeness; namley, coming in with wide looping shots that a skilled and fast puncher could get between. de Leon got iced that way by JML--and it could happen to Valero--but not by a aging JC.

This will be an early and clean starch job (pardon the near pun).

[TheDemolitionDan]

Casamayor is done. This will be another good test for Valero and I think this ends in 4 or 5 rounds with Valero stopping him. Valero is a beast.

[Violent Demise]

Penalosa did beat Ponce IMO.

If you can't score than yeah he did.

[OumaFan]

LOL he won at least seven rounds

assuming you judge fights on clean punching and not just ineffective activity.

[Quinito]

Valero-Soto would be more interesting. I think Valero kisses the canvas faster the Bobby Pac.

[Majesty]

Its sad that Casamayor lost that decision to Freitas. Because he would have done so much in those prime years for the division he could have retired by now and not have to still fight for respect

[OumaFan]

Casamayor doesn't have to fight for respect at this point.

[mad_takamura]

casamayor vs valero will be like penalosa vs juanma lopez and the outcome will be similar: a ko loss to the aging fighter.

casa should retire before he gets punished.

[ICB]

Edwin Valero may of showed some skills in sparring, but in actual fights. He has showed me nothing except for punching power. People are making the mistake again of writing off the older fighter too quickly.

Joel Casamayor maybe on the slide, but he still put up a great effort against JMM. And all Edwin Valero has is punching power, he's like the early version of Manny Pacquiao without the speed.

Im actually picking Joel Casamayor, i still think he has skills to beat Edwin Valero. He also still packs a punch and we don't really know how good Edwin Valero's chin is.

[Majesty]

Edwin Valero may of showed some skills in sparring, but in actual fights. He has showed me nothing except for punching power. People are making the mistake again of writing off the older fighter too quickly.

Joel Casamayor maybe on the slide, but he still put up a great effort against JMM. And all Edwin Valero has is punching power, he's like the early version of Manny Pacquiao without the speed.

Im actually picking Joel Casamayor, i still think he has skills to beat Edwin Valero. He also still packs a punch and we don't really know how good Edwin Valero's chin is.

If Valero beats him then Casamayor really needs to retire