Jones Jr. - Tyson

[JonesJrMayweather]

Jones was full of hot air and shit

He ws also supposed to fight Douglas but backed out after his dad called it a stupid idea, he was also supposed to fight Holyfield and chickened out of that too.

In fact his pulling out of fights had Tarver draw a cartoon of Don King dragging Jones to the ring tied up to fight Ruiz because everyone thought Roy would pull out of that too.

The douglass fight was mentioned after roy just got to LHW from 168, and it was possibly too early...The holyfield fight didn't happen because Holy lost to lennox, then ruiz beat holyfield. So he fought Ruiz who was a alphabet title holder, much smarter than fight lennox lewis...

the fact that you're suggesting Roy is a "chicken" for not fighting heavy's is flat out disliking for a great fighter. Roy started at 154, was still bascially too small for 174 but managed to stay there for most of his career.

Him being chicken for not fighting professional heavy's when he's 30+ pounds smaller than them probably the dumbest shit I've heard on here in a while. And since you mention Tarver, he gained all his muscle for a fucking movie, then came back down and was torn up by bernard hopkins a man smaller than him. And after the fight he clearly realized what Roy went through but still managed to beat his ass but Tarver couldn't bring himself to admit it on television because he knew it would take away his only claim to fame..his victories over Roy. At least Roy gained a HW title for putting his body through that..tarver just got exposed...

[ICB]

Jones was full of hot air and shit

He ws also supposed to fight Douglas but backed out after his dad called it a stupid idea, he was also supposed to fight Holyfield and chickened out of that too.

In fact his pulling out of fights had Tarver draw a cartoon of Don King dragging Jones to the ring tied up to fight Ruiz because everyone thought Roy would pull out of that too.

The douglass fight was mentioned after roy just got to LHW from 168, and it was possibly too early...The holyfield fight didn't happen because Holy lost to lennox, then ruiz beat holyfield. So he fought Ruiz who was a alphabet title holder, much smarter than fight lennox lewis...

the fact that you're suggesting Roy is a "chicken" for not fighting heavy's is flat out disliking for a great fighter. Roy started at 154, was still bascially too small for 174 but managed to stay there for most of his career.

Him being chicken for not fighting professional heavy's when he's 30+ pounds smaller than them probably the dumbest shit I've heard on here in a while. And since you mention Tarver, he gained all his muscle for a fucking movie, then came back down and was torn up by bernard hopkins a man smaller than him. And after the fight he clearly realized what Roy went through but still managed to beat his ass but Tarver couldn't bring himself to admit it on television because he knew it would take away his only claim to fame..his victories over Roy. At least Roy gained a HW title for putting his body through that..tarver just got exposed...

RJJ is one of my favorites but i also thought he took steroids, when he moved up to Heavyweight. He seemed to put on alot of weight so easily, and still have a body-fat percentage below 10 percent, which is a bit unreal without steroids in that amount of time.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Jones was full of hot air and shit

He ws also supposed to fight Douglas but backed out after his dad called it a stupid idea, he was also supposed to fight Holyfield and chickened out of that too.

In fact his pulling out of fights had Tarver draw a cartoon of Don King dragging Jones to the ring tied up to fight Ruiz because everyone thought Roy would pull out of that too.

The douglass fight was mentioned after roy just got to LHW from 168, and it was possibly too early...The holyfield fight didn't happen because Holy lost to lennox, then ruiz beat holyfield. So he fought Ruiz who was a alphabet title holder, much smarter than fight lennox lewis...

the fact that you're suggesting Roy is a "chicken" for not fighting heavy's is flat out disliking for a great fighter. Roy started at 154, was still bascially too small for 174 but managed to stay there for most of his career.

Him being chicken for not fighting professional heavy's when he's 30+ pounds smaller than them probably the dumbest shit I've heard on here in a while. And since you mention Tarver, he gained all his muscle for a fucking movie, then came back down and was torn up by bernard hopkins a man smaller than him. And after the fight he clearly realized what Roy went through but still managed to beat his ass but Tarver couldn't bring himself to admit it on television because he knew it would take away his only claim to fame..his victories over Roy. At least Roy gained a HW title for putting his body through that..tarver just got exposed...

RJJ is one of my favorites but i also thought he took steroids, when he moved up to Heavyweight. He seemed to put on alot of weight so easily, and still have a body-fat percentage below 10 percent, which is a bit unreal without steroids in that amount of time.

Roy is a small man that walked around near his fighting weight. So any weight that he would put on would be muscle. He had mickey working with him for that fight..he only put on 19 pounds in six months. that's not that unbelievable considering that all he had to worry about about was working out. It's not like he had a day job or anything. I mean two a day workouts, and he didn't run as much in prep for that fight, that's easy for a professional athlete. 3 pounds a month.

[generalbulldog]

Jones was full of hot air and shit

He ws also supposed to fight Douglas but backed out after his dad called it a stupid idea, he was also supposed to fight Holyfield and chickened out of that too.

In fact his pulling out of fights had Tarver draw a cartoon of Don King dragging Jones to the ring tied up to fight Ruiz because everyone thought Roy would pull out of that too.

The douglass fight was mentioned after roy just got to LHW from 168, and it was possibly too early...The holyfield fight didn't happen because Holy lost to lennox, then ruiz beat holyfield. So he fought Ruiz who was a alphabet title holder, much smarter than fight lennox lewis...

the fact that you're suggesting Roy is a "chicken" for not fighting heavy's is flat out disliking for a great fighter. Roy started at 154, was still bascially too small for 174 but managed to stay there for most of his career.

Him being chicken for not fighting professional heavy's when he's 30+ pounds smaller than them probably the dumbest shit I've heard on here in a while. And since you mention Tarver, he gained all his muscle for a fucking movie, then came back down and was torn up by bernard hopkins a man smaller than him. And after the fight he clearly realized what Roy went through but still managed to beat his ass but Tarver couldn't bring himself to admit it on television because he knew it would take away his only claim to fame..his victories over Roy. At least Roy gained a HW title for putting his body through that..tarver just got exposed...

RJJ is one of my favorites but i also thought he took steroids, when he moved up to Heavyweight. He seemed to put on alot of weight so easily, and still have a body-fat percentage below 10 percent, which is a bit unreal without steroids in that amount of time.

Steroids are so yesterday! It's all about HGH now!

[Fenster]

Even though Tyson was past it at that point, I think it would have been another Spinks-Tyson outcome.

Sorry mate but i think RJJ would of had a decent chance, this is the same Mike Tyson that was getting out boxed by Francois Botha. Until he found a lucky right hand, Mike Tyson at that point was for certain there for the taking.

Botha was a 6'3, 16 1/2 stone natural heavyweight.

Ruiz couldn't handle Roy because he's a non-punching, non-explosive, toilet, plodder. The opposite of - even a faded - Tyson. Roys punches would have been like pea shooter shots to Tyson. He'd have mown Roy down in one.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Even though Tyson was past it at that point, I think it would have been another Spinks-Tyson outcome.

Sorry mate but i think RJJ would of had a decent chance, this is the same Mike Tyson that was getting out boxed by Francois Botha. Until he found a lucky right hand, Mike Tyson at that point was for certain there for the taking.

Botha was a 6'3, 16 1/2 stone natural heavyweight.

Ruiz couldn't handle Roy because he's a non-punching, non-explosive, toilet, plodder. The opposite of - even a faded - Tyson. Roys punches would have been like pea shooter shots to Tyson. He'd have mown Roy down in one.

That's what Tyson was at that point. He only threw on the inside and stopped using his lateral movement to get close.

[Fenster]

Sorry mate but i think RJJ would of had a decent chance, this is the same Mike Tyson that was getting out boxed by Francois Botha. Until he found a lucky right hand, Mike Tyson at that point was for certain there for the taking.

Botha was a 6'3, 16 1/2 stone natural heavyweight.

Ruiz couldn't handle Roy because he's a non-punching, non-explosive, toilet, plodder. The opposite of - even a faded - Tyson. Roys punches would have been like pea shooter shots to Tyson. He'd have mown Roy down in one.

That's what Tyson was at that point. He only threw on the inside and stopped using his lateral movement to get close.

Not for one and half rounds he wasn't. He had Danny Williams rocking all over the shop and Etienne out in one.

That's the amount of time he'd need against little Roy.

[ICB]

Even though Tyson was past it at that point, I think it would have been another Spinks-Tyson outcome.

Sorry mate but i think RJJ would of had a decent chance, this is the same Mike Tyson that was getting out boxed by Francois Botha. Until he found a lucky right hand, Mike Tyson at that point was for certain there for the taking.

Botha was a 6'3, 16 1/2 stone natural heavyweight.

Ruiz couldn't handle Roy because he's a non-punching, non-explosive, toliet plodder. The opposite of - even a faded - Tyson. Roys punches would have been like pea shooter shots to Tyson. He'd have mown Roy down in one.

Isn't that exactly what Francois Botha is ?

[Fenster]

Sorry mate but i think RJJ would of had a decent chance, this is the same Mike Tyson that was getting out boxed by Francois Botha. Until he found a lucky right hand, Mike Tyson at that point was for certain there for the taking.

Botha was a 6'3, 16 1/2 stone natural heavyweight.

Ruiz couldn't handle Roy because he's a non-punching, non-explosive, toliet plodder. The opposite of - even a faded - Tyson. Roys punches would have been like pea shooter shots to Tyson. He'd have mown Roy down in one.

Isn't that exactly what Francois Botha is ?

He's not that bad.

Would Ruiz have been outboxing Tyson for 5 rounds? No chance.

[Master]

At that time Tyson was crap, James Toney would have beaten him like he did Holyfield. Jones would have had to stay on the outside for 5 rounds and then he would have taken over. Tyson was a shell of a fighter.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Botha was a 6'3, 16 1/2 stone natural heavyweight.

Ruiz couldn't handle Roy because he's a non-punching, non-explosive, toilet, plodder. The opposite of - even a faded - Tyson. Roys punches would have been like pea shooter shots to Tyson. He'd have mown Roy down in one.

That's what Tyson was at that point. He only threw on the inside and stopped using his lateral movement to get close.

Not for one and half rounds he wasn't. He had Danny Williams rocking all over the shop and Etienne out in one.

That's the amount of time he'd need against little Roy.

RJJ wouldn't have fought tyson the same way, he would have moved ALOT more than he did against ruiz. Not to mention etienne was only there to get a check after all the crap tyson was pulling leading up to the fight. And Roy would destroy danny williams. Roy would have hit tyson with something hard and quick to make him respect his speed and power to calm the initial aggression, then pot shot him for 12 rounds. Tyson was done.

[Master]

Although Tyson was a shell of a fighter the only people that did beat him were big heavy fighters who were leaning over Tyson and that is something Roy would not have been able to do.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Although Tyson was a shell of a fighter the only people that did beat him were big heavy fighters who were leaning over Tyson and that is something Roy would not have been able to do.

that's a good point...but then tyson never had to chase anyone that can hit going backwards like rjj...tyson would have tired.

[Master]

Although Tyson was a shell of a fighter the only people that did beat him were big heavy fighters who were leaning over Tyson and that is something Roy would not have been able to do.

that's a good point...but then tyson never had to chase anyone that can hit going backwards like rjj...tyson would have tired.

Yes maybe but he would not have tired as fast so maybe could have lost on points. If he landed he would decapitate Roy.

[Kel]

Crazy if you ask me, RJJ would have got knocked out. Tyson had the speed to land a shot and it would have been game over for sure if he did.