Manny goes down in 8

[Kel]

I can only compare one other fighter to mayweather and thats sugar ray. The only diff i see with this sensetive situation (because others might view it different) is that sugar has blemishes on his record. And that is his legacy. Thats the tale of the tape for him. Now Mayweather on the other hand......... Think about it.

Nuff said.

Don't be so stupid.

Prove me wrong. SEE you cant because stats speak scrub. SO dont YOU be stupid and give credit when credit due

Prove you wrong with what? He lost to Duran in his prime, his 2 other losses came about 10 and 20 years later. Maybe he could have retired undefeated if there were shot Gattis, Mitchells and Judahs hanging about or a shit Baldomir type held some title......but he fought all time greats instead.

Idiot

[Kel]

Mayweather won a belt at 140 but wasnt the champ. Floyd never fought Hatton at 140 to claim the undisputed title. Mayweather also didnt fight Cotto and Margarito at 147 so his claim to fame there is in question.

Floyd possibly could have been one of the greatest but we will never know because he is afraid to lose and wont fight anyone that can possible beat him.

Okay i see you havent been doing your research. Because you are talking non sense. So all ill say to you on this subject is check his resume. Then get at me.

Your as much of a dick as Floyd himself. Real fans don't give a fuck about boxers being undefeated because anyone can do it if they avoid the best. Twat

[The GOAT]

Don't be so stupid.

Prove me wrong. SEE you cant because stats speak scrub. SO dont YOU be stupid and give credit when credit due

Prove you wrong with what? He lost to Duran in his prime, his 2 other losses came about 20 years later. Maybe he could have retired undefeated if there were shot Gattis, Mitchells and Judahs hanging about or a shit Baldomir type held some title......but he fought all time greats instead.

Idiot

Thats where you are wrong BUDDY. You dont here jack sh1t about Duran. I'll give you tommy the hit man hearns, marvin hagler,and if you are a true boxing fan you should recall when sugar fought duran and fought him in the center of the ring with his own fighting style and beat him brutally. Then came back with the mandatory rematch and sugar danced all over him. Note im not saying sugar isnt great he is. But Pretty boy floyd is fast powerfull and a teacher of he game like the old greats before his time.

Now check out floyd resume and see who he fought. He fought all contenders or belt holders in every division he went to. never ran. The cottos and magarittos aint come on the scene until late. when pretty boy was on his way out the door 4 retirement. So try again my friend.

[Spicoli]

welcome to the forum.Someones been drinking the kool aid......

come in and start tossing insults like rice at a wedding....yeh, this will last.

[KananKrus]

Is this a thread about Miguel Cotto defeating Manny Pacquiao? Or it is something else, it's getting somewhat confusing....

[Kel]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

[bcollins]

I see the short bus just pulled in.

[The GOAT]

Wow there are alot of PAC MAN fans. If you say anything wrong or they dont like you are going to be a troll. Hell i like PACMAN two. But im a student of the game and i call it like i see it. Because trust i ould love to see PACMAN and PBF get it on so all the critics can be silenced. But i just dont see him making it passed COTTO.

[JonnyFolds]

When you talk about Floyd on his "rightful thrown".. I assume you mean "thone", right?

Yeah and I thought you meant the real sugar, Ray Rob.

Duran unwound Leonard, I don't know how you have "leonard sitting in the middle of the ring beating him" in their first fight. Duran was bullying him all around the ring and landing at will. Props to Sugar for the rematch and win, but Duran quit, but he was not behind on the cards.

Mayweather is a paper champ if there ever was one. Cherry pickin B****. And I hope to God you are joking GOAT, b/c Kel and Spicolli bring up good points.

Nothing about an undefeated fighter makes him the best. NOTHING! Unless you are #1 P4P forever Sven Ottke!

And seriously.. talk about thread jacking your own post? Do you even have a topic or are you just completely lit http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...s/shocking.gif

[ICB]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

I'd just like to say its a mystery to me, when people say Arturo Gatti was shot to pieces. Infact people were saying he never looked better, with his new and improved boxing skills. And he was coming off some very good wins against, Micky Ward 2x, Leonard Dorin, Jesse James Leija, Giancula Branco.

And i think its reaching to try and say Steve Forbes, gave ODLH a tougher fight. He won 3 rounds at max.

[The GOAT]

Kel this post is for peeps to say what they feel and i dont knock your feelings or thoughts. I believe what i believe and likewise for you. So thats cool. Now my out take on this fight between these two will prove my theory. Now that should answer your question about how i feel about the media. Let the gloves do the talking. When they do who ever prevails will hit a brick wall PBF.

[The GOAT]

Kel dont 4get to mention sugar shane also. Because PBF wooped up on him too. lol. You still good in my book though kel. MUCH RESPECT

[JonnyFolds]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

Ha.. I had written something very, very similar then erased it. I was beginning to think that this guy was playing a joke on us.

Now I think he's actually serious... ridiculous.

Wait, when did Floyd beat up on Shane? I missed that one. Shane would whoop his butt!

[ICB]

Kel dont 4get to mention sugar shane also. Because PBF wooped up on him too. lol. You still good in my book though kel. MUCH RESPECT

When did Floyd Mayweather ever fight Shane Mosley ?

[The GOAT]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

I'd just like to say its a mystery to me, when people say Arturo Gatti was shot to pieces. Infact people were saying he never looked better, with his new and improved boxing skills. And he was coming off some very good wins against, Micky Ward 2x, Leonard Dorin, Jesse James Leija, Giancula Branco.

And i think its reaching to try and say Steve Forbes, gave ODLH a tougher fight. He won 3 rounds at max.

Thank you homie. I can see you are a student of the game also. You know your facts. I just gave up cuz i see heis strong on his opinons. But thats 100. You know your stats. 1 thing i will say Gatti did reform his style and skills and came through with a vengence in super welterweight. That was the best he ever looked. He did more boxing than brawling. I agree.