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    Default Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...

    [B]Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...


    Before Tito we had some great champs and great matches but when the Tito era came he beat all champs and all comers. HE had incredible Power and incredible Stamina I mean every punch he threw was with conviction even his jab had power behind it for all 12 rounds.

    Since Tito we haven't seen any real dominant WW to be proclaimed the man at 147lbs.

    This are the actual prospects to be called the man.

    Cotto : He was on his way to be the man if he had not loose to Margo (for me he cheated) but still there was P. Williams in the horizon (It would have been a great match)

    Mosley: While he gave Margo the beating of his life Cotto still has a win over him convincingly for about 3 rounds in my score cards among others.

    MArgo: We all know his story but still if he wouldn't been caught cheating who knows what he could have done to Shane Mosley but still he has a convincingly L against P. Williams.

    P.Williams: While he was a very avoided WW he has a very convincingly L vs Quintana who was destroyed by Cotto. P. Williams re match Quintana and in a very competitive first round Williams caught Quintana and end it but in a bad night everything can happen going both ways for Quintana and P.Williams meaning fight 1 and 2.

    Mayweather: Fast up and comer from a div he was the man and the undisputed champ. His first fight at 140 was Henry Bruseles (check him before and after Floyd fight in boxrec) his second fight was a very weight drain and Down hill and RIP Arturo Gatti which he KO's quite easy like a champ should do. So thinking he was the man at 140 leaving Cotto and Hatton goes to 147 to fight Sharamba Mitchel (Way past his Prime) goes and fight the Baldi a guy we all know he ain't shit and box his ass of like it was suppose to happen then fights Judah which I respect him for taking that fight and like it some here said he won but struggle to get that win and to top it off he was Knock Down legitimately but the ref did not counted. Goes and fights Oscar at 154 another fight I respect him to take and win a very close fight with a bit faded Oscar in a bore fest but it is still was a good win to rise his name more in the boxing world setting up fights with the real threads at WW which where Mosley, Cotto and Margo. While all the hype is make and we where all boxing fans sight to see Floyd vs the real top guys at WW and we where all thinking who will be next; Floyd goes and fight the 140 champ(Hatton) at 147, a weight that the 140 champ struggle with Collazo a guy Mosley toyed ala Cotto vs Gomez. But it was evident it was for $$$$ I mean who would say not to that right? maybe in his next fight. Floyd then Stops HAtton and and we boxing fans where hoping to see Floyd vs the Winner of Cotto and Mosley what he does he said **** THAT SHIT and retire his ass leaving me and all boxing fans and his fans frustrated since he talked all that shit about I will beat anybody and this was and tat way and did not walk the walk. etc got tire of typing.

    Andre Berto: Good kid fast and strong but lacks of concentration and defense he had a very difficult time with Collazo and in my eyes and others he still got a lot to proved to belong to the elite.

    Manny Pac:[/B Coming from an impressive win over HAtton at 140 and already had a fight vs past his prime and we can agree he was very weight drained OScar De La Hoya at 147 he now calls out Miguel Cotto at a catch weight of 145 lbs to even things up like they said but still want the hard earn and defended Tittle Cotto earned weighting having the option to weight 147 lbs (WW rules max weight) but still Cotto weighted 146 in his last fight leaving space to shed one more pound to fight PAC. Still PAc and his crew (ROach) wanted for Cotto to go as low as 143. (So why the hell you called him out?) If Pac wins over Cotto he still has to fight Mosley of Floyd without any catch weight crap if he wants to belong at the WW elite group but we all know he just wants to win the 7 weight Div belt and if he wins vs Cotto he will ask Floyd, Marquez or Mosley to again to fight him at a catch weight as well.


    To stay on the topic we still haven't see a true dominant WW since Felix Trinidad. Who could of those or up and comer be the new dominant WW CHAMP that take all fighters like Tito did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puya View Post
    [b]Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...


    Before Tito we had some great champs and great matches but when the Tito era came he beat all champs and all comers. HE had incredible Power and incredible Stamina I mean every punch he threw was with conviction even his jab had power behind it for all 12 rounds.

    Since Tito we haven't seen any real dominant WW to be proclaimed the man at 147lbs.

    This are the actual prospects to be called the man.

    Cotto : He was on his way to be the man if he had not loose to Margo (for me he cheated) but still there was P. Williams in the horizon (It would have been a great match)

    Mosley: While he gave Margo the beating of his life Cotto still has a win over him convincingly for about 3 rounds in my score cards among others.

    MArgo: We all know his story but still if he wouldn't been caught cheating who knows what he could have done to Shane Mosley but still he has a convincingly L against P. Williams.

    P.Williams: While he was a very avoided WW he has a very convincingly L vs Quintana who was destroyed by Cotto. P. Williams re match Quintana and in a very competitive first round Williams caught Quintana and end it but in a bad night everything can happen going both ways for Quintana and P.Williams meaning fight 1 and 2.

    Mayweather: Fast up and comer from a div he was the man and the undisputed champ. His first fight at 140 was Henry Bruseles (check him before and after Floyd fight in boxrec) his second fight was a very weight drain and Down hill and RIP Arturo Gatti which he KO's quite easy like a champ should do. So thinking he was the man at 140 leaving Cotto and Hatton goes to 147 to fight Sharamba Mitchel (Way past his Prime) goes and fight the Baldi a guy we all know he ain't shit and box his ass of like it was suppose to happen then fights Judah which I respect him for taking that fight and like it some here said he won but struggle to get that win and to top it off he was Knock Down legitimately but the ref did not counted. Goes and fights Oscar at 154 another fight I respect him to take and win a very close fight with a bit faded Oscar in a bore fest but it is still was a good win to rise his name more in the boxing world setting up fights with the real threads at WW which where Mosley, Cotto and Margo. While all the hype is make and we where all boxing fans sight to see Floyd vs the real top guys at WW and we where all thinking who will be next; Floyd goes and fight the 140 champ(Hatton) at 147, a weight that the 140 champ struggle with Collazo a guy Mosley toyed ala Cotto vs Gomez. But it was evident it was for $$$$ I mean who would say not to that right? maybe in his next fight. Floyd then Stops HAtton and and we boxing fans where hoping to see Floyd vs the Winner of Cotto and Mosley what he does he said **** THAT SHIT and retire his ass leaving me and all boxing fans and his fans frustrated since he talked all that shit about I will beat anybody and this was and tat way and did not walk the walk. etc got tire of typing.

    Andre Berto: Good kid fast and strong but lacks of concentration and defense he had a very difficult time with Collazo and in my eyes and others he still got a lot to proved to belong to the elite.

    Manny Pac:[/B Coming from an impressive win over HAtton at 140 and already had a fight vs past his prime and we can agree he was very weight drained OScar De La Hoya at 147 he now calls out Miguel Cotto at a catch weight of 145 lbs to even things up like they said but still want the hard earn and defended Tittle Cotto earned weighting having the option to weight 147 lbs (WW rules max weight) but still Cotto weighted 146 in his last fight leaving space to shed one more pound to fight PAC. Still PAc and his crew (ROach) wanted for Cotto to go as low as 143. (So why the hell you called him out?) If Pac wins over Cotto he still has to fight Mosley of Floyd without any catch weight crap if he wants to belong at the WW elite group but we all know he just wants to win the 7 weight Div belt and if he wins vs Cotto he will ask Floyd, Marquez or Mosley to again to fight him at a catch weight as well.


    To stay on the topic we still haven't see a true dominant WW since Felix Trinidad. Who could of those or up and comer be the new dominant WW CHAMP that take all fighters like Tito did.

    Excuse my typing errors!!!!!
    Tito was more well established than any of the "champs" of today at WW but he never fought Quartey and IMO didn't beat DLH, and then there was Mosley, yea he had the longest title run but to say he was dominant i'm not so sure

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    Default Re: Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Puya View Post
    [b]Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...
    Tito was more well established than any of the "champs" of today at WW but he never fought Quartey and IMO didn't beat DLH, and then there was Mosley, yea he had the longest title run but to say he was dominant i'm not so sure
    Agreed mate....He never fought IKE who was dangerous at that stage of his career...And the DLH fight was more DLH giving up the last 3 rds then Tito winning them....Until then Oscar had gave Tito all he could handle
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    Default Re: Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...

    Tito beat undefeated fighters in Oba Carr and Yori Boy, he also convincingly beat admittedly the old Whitaker. ODH shook the division though fighting Pernell and Ike.
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    ODH, Tito and Mosely never really answered who was the best @ WW. I thought Oscar beat Tito but a rematch would have been really interested. I also thought Oscar won the second fight with Shane so a third was really needed. Not sure how a Mosely v Tito fight never happened. I'd take Shane in that one. To me I put both Shane and Oscar slightly above Tito and w/o a third fight between the two I can't say who I think was the better WW. I'd say its fair to say Tito has had the most relevant reigh at WW of the last several champs. Williams could probably own the division if he wanted it but great WWs never seem to stay welters very long.
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    It is clear Tito dominated the 147 division when he was there. No question about it. Look at his KO rate and look at the people he KO'd and how he ko'd them. Just because he did not dominate Oscar does not mean he did not dominate the division. And Ike Quartey? He was pretty good, but in my mind he gets dominated too, only because of his style. Oscar was so scared of Tito that he "boxed" and gained the nickname "Chicken" de la Hoya. And the reason Tito did not fight Mosley was simply a timing issue. Mosley fought at lower weights and Tito moved up while Mosley was moving up. And Tito ducked no one.

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    Default Re: Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...

    only true dominant divisional champs of the last decade have been calzaghe at 168 and bhop at 160.

    Mayweather hasnt fought enough at 147 yet to be classed as dominant, pac keeps moving weights, tito didnt exactly boss every fight he ever fought, klitschkos fight bums, barrera and morales fought at various weights and RJJ got itchy bum fever every time he knew he owned a division
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    Great Exciting Fighter I Agree

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    Default Re: Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...

    Quote Originally Posted by johnashton View Post
    Great Exciting Fighter I Agree
    Joshashton, what performance do you think was better, when he beat ricky hatton or when he beat cotto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman89 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnashton View Post
    Great Exciting Fighter I Agree
    Joshashton, what performance do you think was better, when he beat ricky hatton or when he beat cotto?
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    Default Re: Felix "Tito" Trinidad the last real dominant WW Champ...

    No Trinidad wasn't the last real dominant WW champion, Oscar made him look like an amateur and got robbed in the process.

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