the jones of today vs pavlik

[HattonTheHammer]

I just don't see Pavlik as a what people are saying he is. He is very predictable and telling. I think Roy fighting Pavlik would not be like Lacy. Remember Lacy doesn't just hit hard he also is about as strong of a fighter as you'll see. Lacy's body strength made Roy go to the ropes a lot more than he'd like. Pavlik hits hard but he isn't a strong body. So his pressure is more mobile. I think even this version of Roy would box circles around him. If Pavlik had the body strength he would have beaten BHop like Taylor did. Pavlik reminds me of Trinidad. Sharp strong punches but little body strength. I think you have to overpower Roy at this point. Of course, Pavlik has a puncher's chance against anyone though.

agreed

ive never bought into the pavlik phenomena and never will do. A world class fighter will always beat pavlik and that`ll once more be proven when williams beats kelly up.

Even a 40year old jones would be just too big a task for pavlik. If kelly cant see a hopkins uppercut what chance does he have with a jones hook

[Boxer4life]

roy by possible stoppage........pavlik will get to frustrated...ala hopkins fight....

[Master]

At middleweight Pavlik.

[Majesty]

lol all this "If Roy lays against the ropes he is gonna get KO'd" Didn't people say the same thing about the Lacy fight?

Roy hits a lot harder then Hopkins or Taylor and Pavlik has shown he doesn't have a "steel" chin either. Hopkins had him baffled and on queer street and hurt at times at 168 at 175 Roy would completely dismantle him.

[OumaFan]

LOL Lacy's just not good, sorry to his fans but he's just completely lost whatever he once had, he barely beat Mendoza ffs. I think Roy laying against the ropes is a bad move against Pavlik but I didn't think it mattered against Lacy, I picked Jones to TKO him knowing that he'd lay on the ropes all night. He doesn't have the legs to stay in the center of the ring or move.

And Roy doesn't hit harder than Hopkins now. He just doesn't seem to get much on his punches these days.

Could Roy win? I guess. Kelly's got his vulnerabilities we all know that. But he's no Jeff Lacy. This Roy thing now is smoke and mirrors IMO. The Calzaghe fight was depressing and I'm not even a big fan and that was what a year ago?

[CFH]

lol all this "If Roy lays against the ropes he is gonna get KO'd" Didn't people say the same thing about the Lacy fight?

Roy hits a lot harder then Hopkins or Taylor and Pavlik has shown he doesn't have a "steel" chin either. Hopkins had him baffled and on queer street and hurt at times at 168 at 175 Roy would completely dismantle him.

Hopkins hit Pavlik flush all night and never once had him seriously hurt.

Also, comparing Pavlik to Lacy is utterly ridiculous.

[ono]

A prime Jones would make Pavlik look like Kid Thunder.

A 40 year old Jones still has the ability to embarrass him but i'm not so sure he has the legs to effectively move away from Pavlik's shots for a full 12 rounds. If he could start well and make Pavlik become hesitant then i think Pavlik would stand off enough for Roy to go to town on his head, but if that doesn't happen and Jones spends too much time on the ropes, sooner or later he's going to get caught.

I'd hesitantly go against the grain here and pick a Roy Jones UD, probably more to do with (imo) Pavlik not being that good.

[rjj tszyu]

The Jones of today for me. Pavlikhas good power but I just can't help thinking about what Jermain Taylor was doing to him in the early going of the first fight. And Jones has more of everything than Taylor and I mean that, for me Taylor does not have anything that he does better than Jones.

[DaxxKahn]

Lets not base anything on the Lacy fight because anyone could have looked good against Jeff.....I think Kid Thunder is fighting him next and is the clear Vegas favorite 50-1.......

Jones is too timid from big shots these days....Fighting scared is dangerous because you are tense and the KO is easier to score.....

Kelly would be patient early and give Roy more respect then need be but by the 5th he would start to open up and score a KO

[JonesJrMayweather]

Lets not base anything on the Lacy fight because anyone could have looked good against Jeff.....I think Kid Thunder is fighting him next and is the clear Vegas favorite 50-1.......

Jones is too timid from big shots these days....Fighting scared is dangerous because you are tense and the KO is easier to score.....

Kelly would be patient early and give Roy more respect then need be but by the 5th he would start to open up and score a KO

Score a kayo at 174? I doubt it..he looked like shit at 168. He was super slow...his abilities are maxed at 160...Roy would make him look like clinton woods even at 40. Besides once Kelly loses to PW...he'll be gone for a while and there will be no more talk of this hypothetical Pavlik-Jones match up.

[Tysonbruno]

i doubt Kelly will be the same after his one sided beating to Hopkins he didn't look the same when he fought Rubio.