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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    The truth is if it wasnt for the most biased ref display in modern history by Dave Parris in the Hatton-Tszyu fight then it would probably have been Kostya fighting PBF and not Ricky. How can anyone possibly think Cortez's refereeing display was worse than Parris's?
    Hatton fans seem unable to accept that Ricky isnt allowed to hold, wrestle and low blow in every bout because whilst fighting in Britain he was allowed to everytime. Goof fighters adapt to the conditions of the fight, Ricky wasnt able to and got beat. When he finally met refs who stopped him wrestling he couldnt handle it and lost.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    ok guys i know we`ve been here 747,825,190 times already but what with floyds win on saturday ive once again been trawling through his career set and not for the 1st time cant stomach myself to watch past 5rounds of mayweather-hatton.

    It was clear for all to see that floyds sharp overhand right f*cked hatton up everytime and that floyd had not just the speed but power advantage on ricky. But once again the fury of the performance of cortez who pretty much f*cked hattons entire gameplan is there for all to see.

    Ricky is the only man to date to genuinely hurt floyd. Had the ropes had not been there in the 1st floyd would of dropped like a sack of shit and every SINGLE time hatton exploded inside landing flat on floyds chin, mayweather hugged hatton leading to joe warning hatton for what i can only presume as being "too over exhuberant"

    Between 6-10 this wasnt the case, floyd whooped hatton all over the ring and showed what a class act he really is. But the annoyance is still there 2 years after it happened. Hattons gameplan WAS working a dream up until cortez decided to stamp it out and without doubt he was dominating a superior fighter with excellent tactics and footwork.

    HAD lets say a kenny bayliss for instance of reffed the fight would floyd right now be sitting here with a record of 39-1?
    WTF lol, Hatton wasn't doing anything at the begining, you say he was landing on Floyd, I think you would have to be blind to see it that way, Hatton landed a few good jabs and a hook or two coming, but on the inside he was hitting shoudlers and elbows or even air, but not landing clean punches. Hatton definitely controlled the real estate, but Mayweather never contested that, he was countering Hatton with little shots off the ropes, and countering him big in the middle of the ring.

    Besides when Kenny Bayless ref'ed Hatton-Pacquiao he was pulling apart quicker than Cortez was pulling apart Hatton and Mayweather.

    In the entire fight Hatton maybe deserved one or two rounds for his overwhelming aggression, but he was getting beating in a competitive, but one sided fight.

    The real question is if Hatton wasn't allowed to fight as cheap as he often did in Manchester what would have his record been?

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    same result.

    and Corley hurt PBF.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    If Mayweather-Hatton had been reffed by someone else, then it just would have been someone else waving the fight off in the 10th and saving Hatton from further punishment.

    I don't think Hatton landed more than 10 clean meaningful punches that entire night. He could've worn Margarito gloves and it wouldn't have mattered.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Is he talking about Mayweather being hurt that time Hatton missed that jab and Mayweather lost his balance avoiding it?

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    I don't think Mayweather was hurt at all, it was more a case of being off balance, pushed back with a jab and stumbling back onto the ropes. He was fine.

    The Hatton/Mayweather fight is a tough one for me to stomach even now. Hatton was clearly in the fight up until the nutty point deduction, but Mayweather was landing the cleaner blows. Hatton got more and more reckless after that. Was it because he had lost his head or was slowing down? I would argue a mixture of both. Getting knocked down by a punch plus a ringpost kind of settles it anyway. You can't lose your head against Mayweather nor slow down.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    It was a close fight up until Cortez took a point away. I think if Cortez wasn't the ref, I don't think Hatton beats Mayweather, but I think Mayweather still wins by a fairly close decision. Hatton was probably leading up until that point where Cortez takes away a point. I don't know I just remember seeing it live and haven't seen it since.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    I love when guys complain how their fighter was robbed by the very thing that benefitted them so many times before. Hatton could have KICKED Castillo in the balls and been credited with a body punch.

    I hope Evander Holyfield takes a career-ending headbutt.
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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Killface View Post
    I love when guys complain how their fighter was robbed by the very thing that benefitted them so many times before. Hatton could have KICKED Castillo in the balls and been credited with a body punch.

    I hope Evander Holyfield takes a career-ending headbutt.
    You know what they say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.
    I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

    In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Here's my view on it:

    Anywhere they fought, no matter who was reffing, Floyd wins. Why? Because Floyd can adapt, and Ricky can't. I have Floyd's career set here too, and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Floyd would have adjusted his fight plan and the end would have been the same.

    With all respect to Ricky, because he's tough as nails and a great British fighter, he fights the same fight every time. He had a lot of success with it, but sooner or later you run into someone who has your number, and Hatton had the misfortune of going up against a true modern day ATG.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Even though he got knocked out, I think the Brits can be proud of the performance. He gave it his all, it was a compeditive fight and not many guys have been able to be compeditive with Floyd.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    I carnt believe people are still arguing about this.Cortez was a t**t in the fight but it still would of been a win for Floyd no matter who the ref was.

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    Default Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

    Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
    Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all
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