Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

[Kev]

I am by no means a fan of John Ruiz, but it seems to me he's always constantly getting flack mainly for his ugly style. Which is fine but if you actually look at his record he's got quite a good resume, and was only stopped once by David Tua where he was caught cold.

As i said in another thread, he gets no credit for his 1st two fights with Evander Holyfield. This was the same Evander Holyfield who just fought Lennox Lewis, and Lennox Lewis gets all the credit in the world for the Evander Holyfield fights.

Yet John Ruiz gets no credit, why is that ? i mean he beat Evander Holyfield in the 1st fight and was robbed. And in the rematch Evander Holyfield fought a better fight, yet John Ruiz still come on and dropped Evander Holyfield heavily, and had him all over the place. And he won the last round to beat a good version of Evander Holyfield.

Plus he has some decent wins over Tony Tucker, Hasim Rahman, Andre Golota, Fres Oquendo, Jameel McCline, Jimmy Thunder, Kirk Johnson.

Plus quite a few of his decision losses should of gone his way, he is an ugly fighter and obviously not fan friendly. But i do think he deserves a bit more credit than he gets given.

Ruiz unilaterally makes every fight he is in unwatchable. PLus his victories are tainted by his heavy use of holding, which is cheating and should not be allowed.

To be honest I've only seen a handful of Ruiz fights but his reputation as dull and boring is a bit undeserved imo.

His rematch with Valuev he really had a good go and was entertaining. His fight with James Toney was entertaining too.

He's no more boring to me than watching the likes of Alexander Povetkin, Eddie Chambers and Calvin Brock.

[amat]

So Bilbo you name 2 John Ruiz fights from the past couple years and that's your reasoning? The Toney fight was mildly entertaining because he HAD to change his style against Toney or he would have been battered more then he was.

You are on crack if you prefer Ruiz to Chambers and Povetkin. That is such a stupid statement. Like the stupidest statement of all time, really. Ruiz is the ugliest fighter ever to make it in boxing, he's got shot after shot because of his manipulation of sanctioning bodies and threats of lawsuits, Bullshit, Ruiz is one fighter I'd wished never taken up boxing.

[Kev]

So Bilbo you name 2 John Ruiz fights from the past couple years and that's your reasoning? The Toney fight was mildly entertaining because he HAD to change his style against Toney or he would have been battered more then he was.

You are on crack if you prefer Ruiz to Chambers and Povetkin. That is such a stupid statement. Like the stupidest statement of all time, really. Ruiz is the ugliest fighter ever to make it in boxing, he's got shot after shot because of his manipulation of sanctioning bodies and threats of lawsuits, Bullshit, Ruiz is one fighter I'd wished never taken up boxing.

Reason enough for me to become a fan right there.