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    Default Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Out of interest I'm wondering how many other guys below heavyweight we think could have done just as effective a job against Valuev as Haye did?

    Below is my list of fighters who I think would all beat Valuev.

    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones ( prime wins easy, current Roy still wins)
    James Toney (prime, prob even now)
    Chad Dawson
    Joe Calzaghe
    Artur Abraham
    Mikkell Kessler
    Paul Williams
    Thomas Adamek
    Andre Ward

    Fighters who would go 12 rounds but may not win the decision.

    Floyd Mayweather
    Manny Pacquaio
    Shane Mosely
    Ivan Calderon

    I'm not even joking or being sarcastic here.

    How in the world would Valuev ever catch up with Ivan Calderon? He'd never get close.

    I don't think Valuev would stop ANY of those inside the distance and all of the fighters in the top list would beat him imo.

    Haye's win is just no big deal, Valuev is just fucking awful.

    Anyone disagree?

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    i made a thread YEARS ago to fuck around that ivan calderon could beat valuev



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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    This thread has some real entertainment potential.

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    Wink Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    This thread has some real entertainment potential.
    I think the answer we're looking for is Linford Christie.

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Pac by KO
    When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough

    Charley Burley

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Valuev was dogshit

    I feel a villian part in a new bond film coming his was

    All he's good for.

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Bernard Hopkins - A fighter with his style getting a decision in germany?? No chance
    Roy Jones ( prime wins easy, current Roy still wins) - prime valuev is simply too big and jabs his way to a decision. Now the exact same thing
    James Toney (prime, prob even now) - Not even on his complete day, valuev is too big and too awkward
    Chad Dawson - Potentially if he had gone through the cruisers, heavys in the right way. dont see why not
    Joe Calzaghe - He`s a skinny 175pounder, how the hell does he make it to heavyweight let alone win a world title
    Artur Abraham - Your taking the piss now right??
    Mikkell Kessler - Too small, his style suits him to a tea at SM
    Paul Williams - Even for a 6foot 2 former welterweight it would be step ladder time. How the hell would PW be able to retain his slick style 50pounds heavier??
    Thomas Adamek - Along with dawson potentially. Need to see him in with genuine competition at heavy. And he needs bulking up muscle
    Andre Ward - Watch how he struggle with a guy at 168 and gets KO`d. then come back and tell me he beats a 325pounder


    nice try at fishing bilbo, elterrible and demise will love you for this!!
    one dangerous horrible bloke

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Bernard Hopkins - A fighter with his style getting a decision in germany?? No chance
    Roy Jones ( prime wins easy, current Roy still wins) - prime valuev is simply too big and jabs his way to a decision. Now the exact same thing
    James Toney (prime, prob even now) - Not even on his complete day, valuev is too big and too awkward
    Chad Dawson - Potentially if he had gone through the cruisers, heavys in the right way. dont see why not
    Joe Calzaghe - He`s a skinny 175pounder, how the hell does he make it to heavyweight let alone win a world title
    Artur Abraham - Your taking the piss now right??
    Mikkell Kessler - Too small, his style suits him to a tea at SM
    Paul Williams - Even for a 6foot 2 former welterweight it would be step ladder time. How the hell would PW be able to retain his slick style 50pounds heavier??
    Thomas Adamek - Along with dawson potentially. Need to see him in with genuine competition at heavy. And he needs bulking up muscle
    Andre Ward - Watch how he struggle with a guy at 168 and gets KO`d. then come back and tell me he beats a 325pounder


    nice try at fishing bilbo, elterrible and demise will love you for this!!
    I'm not fishing, honestly I would put money on all of those guys doing the same job Haye did. Whether Hopkins would get a decision in Germany is irelevent, I'm talking about replicating the performance that Haye put on. Hopkins, even in his 40's would be just as confortable against Valuev as Haye was.

    So how many of those above do you think Valuev would knock out?

    Explain to me how he would hit them on the basis of his last two fights with Evander and Haye?

    All of the fighters I mentioned would easily be able to stay away for 12 rounds and come in with the occasional punch.

    I honestly can't see a gameplan for Valuev that stops any of them. Virtually all those fights would go 12 rounds and be a toss up as to who would win.

    Haye did nothing special at all. He fought a terrible guy who happened to be huge at the expense of mobility. And he just kept away. Big deal.

    Usain Bolt could go 12 rounds with Valuev.

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    This thread has some real entertainment potential.
    I think the answer we're looking for is Linford Christie.
    I don't know who that is.

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Out of interest I'm wondering how many other guys below heavyweight we think could have done just as effective a job against Valuev as Haye did?

    Below is my list of fighters who I think would all beat Valuev.

    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones ( prime wins easy, current Roy still wins)
    James Toney (prime, prob even now)
    Chad Dawson
    Joe Calzaghe
    Artur Abraham
    Mikkell Kessler
    Paul Williams
    Thomas Adamek
    Andre Ward

    Fighters who would go 12 rounds but may not win the decision.

    Floyd Mayweather
    Manny Pacquaio
    Shane Mosely
    Ivan Calderon

    I'm not even joking or being sarcastic here.

    How in the world would Valuev ever catch up with Ivan Calderon? He'd never get close.

    I don't think Valuev would stop ANY of those inside the distance and all of the fighters in the top list would beat him imo.

    Haye's win is just no big deal, Valuev is just fucking awful.

    Anyone disagree?
    Valuev is far to young to even be considered an opponent for Joe Calzaghe

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    Default Re: Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Out of interest I'm wondering how many other guys below heavyweight we think could have done just as effective a job against Valuev as Haye did?

    Below is my list of fighters who I think would all beat Valuev.

    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones ( prime wins easy, current Roy still wins)
    James Toney (prime, prob even now)
    Chad Dawson
    Joe Calzaghe
    Artur Abraham
    Mikkell Kessler
    Paul Williams
    Thomas Adamek
    Andre Ward

    Fighters who would go 12 rounds but may not win the decision.

    Floyd Mayweather
    Manny Pacquaio
    Shane Mosely
    Ivan Calderon

    I'm not even joking or being sarcastic here.

    How in the world would Valuev ever catch up with Ivan Calderon? He'd never get close.

    I don't think Valuev would stop ANY of those inside the distance and all of the fighters in the top list would beat him imo.

    Haye's win is just no big deal, Valuev is just fucking awful.

    Anyone disagree?
    Valuev is far to young to even be considered an opponent for Joe Calzaghe
    Im with you on this one LOL Perhaps Calzaghe may think he can beat Haye and come out of retirement so we can see him get his head weaved in to the canvas

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