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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    One thing is for sure, I will refrain from posting in this forum after the fight else I be charged of being a 'minion of Xadu'.

    My mind says Cotto will be too big for Pac just like when my mind said that Hatton and DLH will be too big for Pac.

    My heart says, Pac will TKO Cotto in the 3rd round (before the 4th round) if Cotto engages Pac early.

    I need to have a bet on this fight. This fight is too big not to make a bet on it.

    This is historic for the Philippines and even for the boxing world. Seven titles in different weight categories is historic and I need to be part of this history in my own little way.

    Name your bet and it's as good as approved as long as there is no conflict with other bettors. First come, first served.

    MY BOLD BET: PAC will win this fight. Pac by TKO if Cotto engages Pac. Pac by UD if Cotto runs.

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    It's one of those fights that can't totally be predicted I think, but I expect Cotto to simply be too big and too strong for Pacquaio.

    If Marquez can push Manny to the brink and seriously rattle him on occasion I see no way he can live with Cotto.

    Yes Manny has speed, but a few digs to the body will likely change that.

    Cotto is leaps and bounds ahead of a weight drained Oscar and a useless Ricky Hatton.

    I'm expecting Cotto to dominate and stop Manny.
    LOL

    that again?


    Pacquiao's hand speed will serve him well BUT his FOOT SPEED will be too much for Cotto. There wont be any body to dig againts PAC.


    PAC by KO/TKO

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    My heart says Cotto. My head says Pac. If this fight took place before Cotto had faced Margerito...i would pick Cotto to win without hesitation. But since that fight...there are several question marks about Miguel and Pac has gained huge momentum. Things that worry me about Cotto at the moment: 1) how will his body react to coming down to 145. Sure, on paper 2 pounds isn't much...but you never know what losing weight can do to a fighters stamina (and Cotto's stamina is not as great as Pac's). 2) has he truly recovered mentally and physically from the Margerito fight. He showed heart against Clottey...but he also seemed a bit more plodding than usual. While Pac is a fighter with weaknesses...he is relentless and supremely confident. Does Cotto still got what it takes menetally and physically to match that? 3) and this is the biggest question for me. Does Cotto's trainer have the experience to draw up the right game plan and also handle this stage? I will be honest (and it could be me reading too much into 24/7), Cotto seems to be training himself for this fight (and no...i don't mean to agree with Roach). Cotto will be at a physical disadvantage for this fight. Pac is clearly faster and Cotto absolutely cannot depend on the whole "i am bigger and stronger" theory. He will have to fight a technical fight and offset Pac's hand and foot speed advantage. Pac, for all of his improvements, basically still fights one way: jumps in with flurries. Cotto needs to use his great jab and draw Pac in to counter him...and then later in the fight try to assert his power shots. Cotto will also need to have a good start and control the pace of the fight early. If pac gets off to a good start...i don't see Cotto having the legs to make it up later in the fight. Are him and his team up for that? I have no idea. Both fighters love to mix it up...so there is potential for fireworks. But if Cotto doesn't fight smart and instead try to out strength Pac by chasing him and hoping to pin against the ropes...this fight could end early for Miguel. pac certainly has his own issue: too many distractions, over confident after over hyped wins over Oscar and Hatton, etc. So it will be interesting to see how he comes into this fight as well. I hope it's a great fight!

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    Watched the 3rd 24/7. Seems more harmony in Team Pac (between Roach and Pac at least) once they relocated to LA.

    I don't think this fight will go the distance. Someone is getting busted up.

    Pac by stoppage - 5/6
    Cotto by stoppage - 7/2

    If my life was on it i'd back Pac. He's too fast. Those odds are telling me to back Cotto though.

    Go Cotto!!!
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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    It's one of those fights that can't totally be predicted I think, but I expect Cotto to simply be too big and too strong for Pacquaio.

    If Marquez can push Manny to the brink and seriously rattle him on occasion I see no way he can live with Cotto.

    Yes Manny has speed, but a few digs to the body will likely change that.

    Cotto is leaps and bounds ahead of a weight drained Oscar and a useless Ricky Hatton.

    I'm expecting Cotto to dominate and stop Manny.
    you're actually basing it to jmm, but take a look ay manny post the second jmm fight: he had vastly improved! that jmm i doubt can push manny around now with his improved skills and physique.

    add the fact that jmm has a different style with cotto too. jmm is a counter puncher extraordinaire, cotto like hatton, hoya and diaz move straight forward. and you know with that kind of approach, pac's gonna have a field day with ya.

    cotto is strong and technically sound, but he moves straight forward too. that's what pac likes and pac's gonna destroy cotto bit by bit i'm tellin ya. now that's a fact!

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I've been thinking Pac all along. But now i'm thinking Cotto. I don't like the apparent unrest in Team Pac (even if it's been sauced up for 24/7).

    The good thing is.. whoever wins it's gonna be a great fight.

    Couldn't have said it any better. I too thought Pac but with the 24/7 and all the B.S. in Pac's camp. To me this is damn near a no brainer. I think Cotto will stop Pac-Man. My original prediction was Pacquiao on cuts of course I could still see this but I think alot of Pac's speed will be gone by about the fifth round do to Cotto's body punching. Cotto TKO.

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    Here's what I see, Cotto is overconfident. It's in his words. He may have started training for this fight early but that's basically because of the $1 million per pound penalty. So basically he started early to make sure he comes in at the weight. Not because he is preparing to face Pacquiao. He repeats the same line that Hatton made and that he is too big for Pacquiao. "He's never faced a true natural welterweight".

    Pac wins this one.

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    I'm voting Cotto ( ya relax Fenster I'll go hit the button in a minute ), but who knows. How many times have we been wrong about Pac before?

    He's a bit of a freak of nature, doing what's he's done already, so I ain't putting anything past him, in spite of conflicts or what have ya.

    Been a Cotto fan for a while. Bit off topic, but I'd like to give Margarito a kick in the nuts with a plaster boot! (It would obv serve no good hitting him in his dumb rock-filled head)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Here's what I see, Cotto is overconfident. It's in his words. He may have started training for this fight early but that's basically because of the $1 million per pound penalty. So basically he started early to make sure he comes in at the weight. Not because he is preparing to face Pacquiao. He repeats the same line that Hatton made and that he is too big for Pacquiao. "He's never faced a true natural welterweight".

    Pac wins this one.
    There's no $1 million per pound penalty for this fight, that was only with Oscar. He started camp early, so he can take the weight off safely, which is the smart thing to do.

    Overconfident? Cotto says the same thing for every fight. "Fights are won in training camp". "We will be prepared for anything he brings", etc, etc...

    The only new stuff is about Manny not facing a true welterweight, which is true.

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    I'm going with Bob Arum's matchmaker on this one. Arum wants a fight where Manny wins and his matchamker (forget the name right now) has a proven history of getting it right, knows the two fighters and where they are in terms of current ability etc., and he advised Arum to make the fight. Top Rank are expecting a Manny win, I'm going with them.

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Here's what I see, Cotto is overconfident. It's in his words. He may have started training for this fight early but that's basically because of the $1 million per pound penalty. So basically he started early to make sure he comes in at the weight. Not because he is preparing to face Pacquiao. He repeats the same line that Hatton made and that he is too big for Pacquiao. "He's never faced a true natural welterweight".

    Pac wins this one.
    There's no $1 million per pound penalty for this fight, that was only with Oscar. He started camp early, so he can take the weight off safely, which is the smart thing to do.

    Overconfident? Cotto says the same thing for every fight. "Fights are won in training camp". "We will be prepared for anything he brings", etc, etc...

    The only new stuff is about Manny not facing a true welterweight, which is true.
    Ah.. yea there is! You can hear it from Larry Merchant radio interview for that LISTEN NOW: CINTRON ACCUSES MANNY OF “STEROIDS” ON “RING TALK RADIO”

    or read it here: Cotto to Pay Pacquiao $1 million per Pound for Excess Weight

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    i would love for Cotto to pound the shit outta Manny but that wont be the case. Pac by stoppage

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    Pacquiao is going to stop Cotto. I hope I'm wrong.

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    pac by decision. different class of fighter.

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    Default Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

    Pacs speed vs cottos power

    Cotto can hurt manny, he can hurt manny bad. He has to stay out of the way of his quick hands though and not make it a fight as manny will love that. If he doesnt fall into the same trap hatton did and hasnt underestimated pacquiaos ability like ODLH did i see cotto possibly taking manny out late on.

    Has to be very sensible early doors and look to lead with the jab. Make manny chase the fight and use your superior strength advantages to wear him down on the counter.

    Cotto in 11
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