How high would you rank Manny in ATG if he beats PBF?

[BIG H]

Right now he's about Top 20, I have him & Mayweather about even, whoever wins gets comfortably in the Top 10. They're already the 2 best since Leonard retired, you could arguably have Pernell Whitaker ahead right now, but I can't see Jones ahead. But they'd have to beat the Mosley/Berto winner or Paul Williams to be the GOAT for me. Truthfully you can't properly assess a career till its over. Remember people used to think Leonard ducked top fights & cherry-picked, there were those who thought it ludicrous he be considered an ATG, yet now most people have him in the Top 10, some in the Top 5.

HAHAHAHAHA that's fuckin crazy LOL

I don't think so, I agree with Jaz. Pac probably just ahead on achievement to date, but very close.

[TitoFan]

I give Manny all the credit in the world for having gone up in weight and having beaten DLH, Hatton, and Cotto. No one knew for sure that he was going to be able to handle the bigger opponents, but he did. That DLH turned out to be shot... sure. Like they say, hindsight is 20-20 vision. That Hatton was overrated (mostly by himself)... sure. He still had the amazing record at 140. The Cotto fight was a true revelation. Manny whipped an excellent 147-pounder at his true weight, no excuses.

Having said all that, I think some people are going overboard with the G.O.A.T. thing, and claiming that Manny walks on water. Surely, if Manny beats PBF, I don't think anyone will be able to dispute his greatness among the ATGs. But you just can't dismiss fighters from other eras, and so willingly throw fighters like Roberto Duran under a bus.

In one of the Pacquiao-Cotto 24/7's, Arum talks about the golden 80's, with the likes of Duran, Hagler, Hearns, SRL, Benitez, all fighting around the same time. And fighting EACH OTHER. Back then there was less posturing, less "retiring" to come back later, less ducking, etc. Fighters didn't claim to be fighting for the p4p anything (Hatton vs. Pac), and accomplishments were earned over long careers. Nowadays, we're so much starving for ATG's, that we're willing to throw that title on anybody with 10 or 20 fights.

I love Manny, and will root for him against PBF. I also admire PBF's boxing skills and rate them right up there with the best of all time. (What I do NOT admire about PBF is his posturing, his self-importance, and -- and this will always be hotly contested by PBF fans -- his penchant for avoiding certain fighters). IMO, it's important to maintain a good perspective, and not rush to judgement on fighters that haven't yet finished their careers.

[Nameless]

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As of this moment Bert Randolph Sugar and Brian Kenny of ESPN ranks Manny at least in the top 20 ATG. If Pacman beats Mayweather where would you put Manny in your ATG list?

Thanks.

Taking everything into consideration, probably about 6th for me... here are some of my pics

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pepp
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
Jimmy Wilde
Benny Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Sandy Saddler
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jnr
Sammy Langford
Ricardo Lopez
Charlie Burley
Marvin Hagler
Julio Cesar Chavez
Carlos Monzon
Harry Greb
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Aaron Pryor
Eder Jofre
Ezzard Charles
Alexis Arguello
Floyd Mayweather Junior
Billy Conn
Oscar DeLaHoya
Bernard Hopkins

Somewhere in the top 20. If he wins, somewhere between the top 15 to top 10.

[ElTerribleMorales]

i have him in the top 20 already, if he manages to beat Floyd IMO theres no way he shouldn't be in the top 10