This is ridiculous!

[DatsiK]

You think this forum is bad? I present to you some comments I came across on a video I was watching recnetly on youtube.

" Manny Pacquiao fights for his country, Floyd don't have a country, he's from AFRICA, a slave bought from Africa, Floyd just fights for his ass! I think all black niggers don't belong to America! Go back to africa you piece of charcoal!! I love JMM though he's tough!" - emosmash

" lolz pacquiao can absorb a lot of punches. unlike this gayweather who is avoiding all of those punches. and just runnin in the ring like a pussy. manny will kick his ass really hard!!! " - Kingz9Giantz

" pacman can k.o. this guy no doubt... because mayweather cant k.o. pacman with this kind of fighting style.... the only way to win over pacman is to knocked him out if you dont... HE WILL KNOCK YOU OUT!!! mayweather cant k.o. pacman he struggled with de la hoya and hatton but pacman manage to k.o. both hatton and dela hoya in early rounds... " - marlonlips

And before you asked yes I checked their profiles and all three were from the Phillipines.

[AdamGB]

If anyone was using Roids it was floyd when he was moving up. Look how big Floyd got against ODLH. That dude got bigger arms than me out of no where? lol get the hell out of here. He was a little pip squeek and then he was blown like Stallone out of no where. I think Floyd is talking from experience myself. Why else would he be going after Pacquiao like that?

So that's where the hating comes from...

[Ebonyman]

I agree that if the tables were turned the amount of allegations that PFB was scared of Pac would be crazy!!!, however, it appears that for some; Pac's justification for not taking the tests are valid? could you imagine if the tables were turned, and PFB wanted to know or dictate when the "random" tests were being given. He would be crucified I ask everyone remember Sugar Shane....it was not the test given by Boxing that outed him; it was the law.

Pac take the damn tests !!! the excuses are pathetic and it's making you look like Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, Ben Johnson, A-Rod, Palmero, Marion Jones etc. ect. Because even if it is a ploy by the PFB camp; then call him on it and agree to the testing

[albsur2006]

You say you are not a fan boy?

Er Wrong!

Everyone knows you hug floyds nuts.

If Manny has to take this kind of test, then every fighter should have to do it.

If we are going to change boxing, let's not do it on whim. The rules have already been set. Let's not make rules up as we go a long.

Floyd is just a pussy who don't want to fight Manny and he is using tactics to make Manny fold out of the race, well guess what? Guess who stands more to loose here? Floyd does because Manny is the king and if Floyd does not get a chance to de-throne Manny by fighting him, guess who is still the king?


Manny.

Floyd needs to stop being a little bitch and just fight the man already. God knows Floyd has ducked everyone else. I am sure Shane Mosley will fight Manny with out having to go through a bunch of red tape.

I hope Floyd ruins this entire thing and we see Manny vs whom ever else they see fit to match him up with.

You see what I'm talking about? You guys are delusional. How is Floyd being a little bitch? Floyd's simply asking for Manny to submit to Olympic style testing for the fight. Manny can either accept it or not. Manny not choosing to accept means that something is up. Please don't tell me it's the principle because he's no saint, we're talking about 20 million dollars guaranteed and a possible 40 million dollar payday. It's not like Floyd isn't doing the tests either. What's the big deal? I actually would love this. It's a superfight to determine the pound for pound best fighter of the decade. This level of fight has never been heard of in a while, where the winner is the undisputed #1 fighter in the past 20 years. In this era of PEDs where our favorite players have been shamed by PED use, we actually have a guy that's willing to take Olympic style testing to prove that he's legit. And you're bashing the guy? With this testing, we'll get concrete evidence with the best testing the world that neither man is fighting dirty. The Nevada State Athletic Commission is a complete joke to athletes who know how to use PEDs. A urinanalysis post fight ain't gonna catch nothing unless you're inexperienced with PEDs. With this testing we can all have confidence that the boxer winning did it clean. Which is something we need these days. I don't understand some of yall guys. Yall are blindly defending a guy who doesn't want to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he's clean. Think about what you're saying. You're basically saying, "I don't want Manny tested like that because it's not right." What's not right about it if you don't use PEDs? It should be fine.

Take this example, let's relate this to regular people. What if you don't drink alcohol AT ALL and some rich guy offers you 200,000 dollars to drive from California to New York and the only requirement to get the money is that you had to pass five breathalyser tests (testing for NO alcohol in your system and not just .0 along the way. If you don't drink alcohol in the first place, would you turn down the guy's offer because it's "insulting" and "a hassle" to be tested? No way in hell. It's the same thing with Pacquiao. You're clean right? Just take the damn tests, get that money money, and give the fans the type of fight we've been waiting for for 20 years. If the fight doesn't go off, how can you Pacquiao fans justify him turning the fight down?

[DaxxKahn]

If manny has nothing to hide, then he should take the test at any given time. For the amount of money at stake a blood test is a silly reason to jeapordize the fight. Something is definaltly up here. But people are so forgiving cause they want floyd to loose so so bad. And that's the real sad part. Switch places and have it be floyd refusing this test or anything everyone would be whinin and cryin. The hate for floyd is at an all time level of riddiculousness

If Manny is roiding, then Floyd was too. Look how big Floyd got. No one was forcing Floyd to take extra blood test out side of the norm of boxing. It's not in the rules so why ask for it. Floyd can't go around changing boxing at his own command. Floyd is not the one in charge. If the boxing authorities agree to change the rules, then so be it but we can't have fighters making up the rules or changing them as they see fit. There is no doubt things are not right in boxing, but Floyd is going about it the wrong way. I am all for Government intervention here.

Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?

Agreed that is also out of hand I mean 10 million per pound c'mon here...That is just crazy...I am not sure if that was thrown out before the request from Floyds camp for the Test or after but it is still out of hand...

[BoxingChaos]

You say you are not a fan boy?

Er Wrong!

Everyone knows you hug floyds nuts.

If Manny has to take this kind of test, then every fighter should have to do it.

If we are going to change boxing, let's not do it on whim. The rules have already been set. Let's not make rules up as we go a long.

Floyd is just a pussy who don't want to fight Manny and he is using tactics to make Manny fold out of the race, well guess what? Guess who stands more to loose here? Floyd does because Manny is the king and if Floyd does not get a chance to de-throne Manny by fighting him, guess who is still the king?


Manny.

Floyd needs to stop being a little bitch and just fight the man already. God knows Floyd has ducked everyone else. I am sure Shane Mosley will fight Manny with out having to go through a bunch of red tape.

I hope Floyd ruins this entire thing and we see Manny vs whom ever else they see fit to match him up with.

You see what I'm talking about? You guys are delusional. How is Floyd being a little bitch? Floyd's simply asking for Manny to submit to Olympic style testing for the fight. Manny can either accept it or not. Manny not choosing to accept means that something is up. Please don't tell me it's the principle because he's no saint, we're talking about 20 million dollars guaranteed and a possible 40 million dollar payday. It's not like Floyd isn't doing the tests either. What's the big deal? I actually would love this. It's a superfight to determine the pound for pound best fighter of the decade. This level of fight has never been heard of in a while, where the winner is the undisputed #1 fighter in the past 20 years. In this era of PEDs where our favorite players have been shamed by PED use, we actually have a guy that's willing to take Olympic style testing to prove that he's legit. And you're bashing the guy? With this testing, we'll get concrete evidence with the best testing the world that neither man is fighting dirty. The Nevada State Athletic Commission is a complete joke to athletes who know how to use PEDs. A urinanalysis post fight ain't gonna catch nothing unless you're inexperienced with PEDs. With this testing we can all have confidence that the boxer winning did it clean. Which is something we need these days. I don't understand some of yall guys. Yall are blindly defending a guy who doesn't want to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he's clean. Think about what you're saying. You're basically saying, "I don't want Manny tested like that because it's not right." What's not right about it if you don't use PEDs? It should be fine.

Take this example, let's relate this to regular people. What if you don't drink alcohol AT ALL and some rich guy offers you 200,000 dollars to drive from California to New York and the only requirement to get the money is that you had to pass five breathalyser tests (testing for NO alcohol in your system and not just .0 along the way. If you don't drink alcohol in the first place, would you turn down the guy's offer because it's "insulting" and "a hassle" to be tested? No way in hell. It's the same thing with Pacquiao. You're clean right? Just take the damn tests, get that money money, and give the fans the type of fight we've been waiting for for 20 years. If the fight doesn't go off, how can you Pacquiao fans justify him turning the fight down?

THIS IS NOT THE OLYMPICS!

The End.


If I were Manny, I would tell Floyd that I will take the test but it will cost him 10 Million dollars.

Wanna play ?

Money man?

[DaxxKahn]

This has gotten out of hand..This is/has become more then about two fighters it has really began to make the sport as a whole look foolish...

Put nit into perspective for a moment...

While Floyd has a valid request it is one that should not be allowed for the fact (And before everyone starts getting out of control read the whole post) that if we start letting fighters decide their opponents take steroid test or other type test outside what is warrented then we start to lose control or what little (and I mean very little at times) law and order the commissions have set for the sport...As I think Boxing Chaos put in another thread this is a rule that should be implemented for the entire sport and not just put on board for Manny Pacquiao at the Whim of Floyd Mayweather....

Floyd does bring up some very valid points and understandingly so but again fact is if this is allowed then it will entice other fighters with clout to make demands that are really rediculous....

Killersheep brought up a valid point in another thread as well...These are private contracts so any stipulation can be added but at what standards are these stipulations going to cause to the sport damage wise?..

This has long gone past the reasonable request of a drug test and turned into something else entirely...

We can not allow fighters to make demands on other fighters other then Venue, Ring size, Glove Type...and that should bge IT!!!!!!

Hell the catchweights are hurting us enough....

On the other side WTF is the outrageous demands of 10 million dollars per pound!!!!!! are they out of their minds? I mean come one in title fights they are fined and champions are stripped of their titles that it a fair and valid rule...

But again with all the freaking catchweight nonsense that has seemed to boom up over the last few years what the hell does it even matter because weight classes are being tossed out the door.....

The Mayweather camp while understood the validity of the request should also know they are not above the sport...No one fighter is above the sport as a whole....So they should take the request to the commision if the commission feels there is no reason to test well then either fight or don't fight and let it be that...So sad too bad

The Pacquiao camp should either fight within the weight class itself and accept what ever fines are implemented by the commissions for being overweight etc...If they don't like it again...So sad Too Bad fight or don't fight...

These guys bare starting to turn this sport into a circus and make it an embaressment...

Maybe Manny is on Steroids maybe not...Maybe he really does believe in the bad luck of the blood draw maybe not....

Truth is that by medical fact your body can recoup a pint of blood in n24 hours so in 48 hours a vial can certainly be recouped and then some for sure..

Maybe Floyd had every intention of coming in over weight before he agreed to the 10 million dollar fine per pound who knows but it is just as big an insult to him and his camp to be requested to do so as is the request for Manny to prove he is not on steroids for Floyds satisfaction

[DaxxKahn]

We have commission for a reason, however flawed they may be but we have them and things like this are their jobs...If you don't want to allow them to do their job then don't fight, if you do not trust them that much then find a new profession..

But do not drag the name of the sport down to the ground with Tabloid like headlines and embaress not only yourselves but every other honest fighter who has nothing to do with your nonsense by causing this bullshit!!!!

This shit has to stop

[salty trunks]

When you have the two personalities that are involved in Arum and Mayweather who already hate each other, there was absolutely no way this fight was going to go smoothly to a signed contract.

Oscar went through the same war with Arum when he broke free of him.

Bob Arum is not the nicest guy and Mayweather is a bit of a premadonna so theyre going to knock heads. Thats the reason Arum had to excuse himself from the negotiations, because theres too much emotion on his side, and you can see it how hes just blowing up in the media now after trying to keep quiet.
I still think Arum and company are in the drivers seat. Manny has many options. He doesnt need to make 25 million a fight. Floyd thinks he does and I dont think he can afford to take any other fight and risk a loss especially if he is in debt or in financial trouble. This fight just represnts too much to him.
Mayweather will concede and the fight will be made. I would be shocked if it wasnt. There is just too much money on the table for all parties involved.

[killersheep]

This is where would greatly benefit from an international boxing commission.
Let the sanctioning bodies run their rankings and "titles" as they do now.

However, one set of standards for drug testing, one set of standards for clear bill of health. One set of standards for all these things would be great.

[zbolt]

If Manny is roiding, then Floyd was too. Look how big Floyd got. No one was forcing Floyd to take extra blood test out side of the norm of boxing. It's not in the rules so why ask for it. Floyd can't go around changing boxing at his own command. Floyd is not the one in charge. If the boxing authorities agree to change the rules, then so be it but we can't have fighters making up the rules or changing them as they see fit. There is no doubt things are not right in boxing, but Floyd is going about it the wrong way. I am all for Government intervention here.

Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?

Agreed that is also out of hand I mean 10 million per pound c'mon here...That is just crazy...I am not sure if that was thrown out before the request from Floyds camp for the Test or after but it is still out of hand...

10 million per pound is ridiculous but if it's applied to a previous proven offender, it sounds fair. i'm guessing that offender (floyd) will have second thoughts coming in over the agreed contract weight again

[blegit]

You say you are not a fan boy?

Er Wrong!

Everyone knows you hug floyds nuts.

If Manny has to take this kind of test, then every fighter should have to do it.

If we are going to change boxing, let's not do it on whim. The rules have already been set. Let's not make rules up as we go a long.

Floyd is just a pussy who don't want to fight Manny and he is using tactics to make Manny fold out of the race, well guess what? Guess who stands more to loose here? Floyd does because Manny is the king and if Floyd does not get a chance to de-throne Manny by fighting him, guess who is still the king?


Manny.

Floyd needs to stop being a little bitch and just fight the man already. God knows Floyd has ducked everyone else. I am sure Shane Mosley will fight Manny with out having to go through a bunch of red tape.

I hope Floyd ruins this entire thing and we see Manny vs whom ever else they see fit to match him up with.

You see what I'm talking about? You guys are delusional. How is Floyd being a little bitch? Floyd's simply asking for Manny to submit to Olympic style testing for the fight. Manny can either accept it or not. Manny not choosing to accept means that something is up. Please don't tell me it's the principle because he's no saint, we're talking about 20 million dollars guaranteed and a possible 40 million dollar payday. It's not like Floyd isn't doing the tests either. What's the big deal? I actually would love this. It's a superfight to determine the pound for pound best fighter of the decade. This level of fight has never been heard of in a while, where the winner is the undisputed #1 fighter in the past 20 years. In this era of PEDs where our favorite players have been shamed by PED use, we actually have a guy that's willing to take Olympic style testing to prove that he's legit. And you're bashing the guy? With this testing, we'll get concrete evidence with the best testing the world that neither man is fighting dirty. The Nevada State Athletic Commission is a complete joke to athletes who know how to use PEDs. A urinanalysis post fight ain't gonna catch nothing unless you're inexperienced with PEDs. With this testing we can all have confidence that the boxer winning did it clean. Which is something we need these days. I don't understand some of yall guys. Yall are blindly defending a guy who doesn't want to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he's clean. Think about what you're saying. You're basically saying, "I don't want Manny tested like that because it's not right." What's not right about it if you don't use PEDs? It should be fine.

Take this example, let's relate this to regular people. What if you don't drink alcohol AT ALL and some rich guy offers you 200,000 dollars to drive from California to New York and the only requirement to get the money is that you had to pass five breathalyser tests (testing for NO alcohol in your system and not just .0 along the way. If you don't drink alcohol in the first place, would you turn down the guy's offer because it's "insulting" and "a hassle" to be tested? No way in hell. It's the same thing with Pacquiao. You're clean right? Just take the damn tests, get that money money, and give the fans the type of fight we've been waiting for for 20 years. If the fight doesn't go off, how can you Pacquiao fans justify him turning the fight down?

THIS IS NOT THE OLYMPICS!

The End.


If I were Manny, I would tell Floyd that I will take the test but it will cost him 10 Million dollars.

Wanna play ?

Money man?

Well the same could be said to Pac's team. For every pound PBF comes in under 147 then Pac should pay $10 million. Wanna play? Anybody can beat around the bush to divert from the issue at hand. PBF submitted to a never before asked totally ridiculous request of $10 million/pound. Pac's team excuse is the Olympic style testing is insulting. Well, thousands of athletes submit to this testing. NO ONE has submitted to $10 million/pound before. One request is ridiculous the other is a proven standard for cleaning out drug cheats. Blood testing at random, not scheduled months before or after the event, is the only reliable chance of beating steroid users. Anyone who thinks the urine tests are reliable is wildly ignorant to today's PEDs. In today's athletics there are numerous amateur athletes using PEDs and pissing clean. Its way too easy. Mosley and Roy Jones Jr. both tested positive for a steroid outside of the tests boxing commissions performed. There is no real reason, except one, for Pac to turn down the testing for the biggest fight in the history of boxing.

[Andre]

You say you are not a fan boy?

Er Wrong!

Everyone knows you hug floyds nuts.

If Manny has to take this kind of test, then every fighter should have to do it.

If we are going to change boxing, let's not do it on whim. The rules have already been set. Let's not make rules up as we go a long.

Floyd is just a pussy who don't want to fight Manny and he is using tactics to make Manny fold out of the race, well guess what? Guess who stands more to loose here? Floyd does because Manny is the king and if Floyd does not get a chance to de-throne Manny by fighting him, guess who is still the king?


Manny.

Floyd needs to stop being a little bitch and just fight the man already. God knows Floyd has ducked everyone else. I am sure Shane Mosley will fight Manny with out having to go through a bunch of red tape.

I hope Floyd ruins this entire thing and we see Manny vs whom ever else they see fit to match him up with.

You see what I'm talking about? You guys are delusional. How is Floyd being a little bitch? Floyd's simply asking for Manny to submit to Olympic style testing for the fight. Manny can either accept it or not. Manny not choosing to accept means that something is up. Please don't tell me it's the principle because he's no saint, we're talking about 20 million dollars guaranteed and a possible 40 million dollar payday. It's not like Floyd isn't doing the tests either. What's the big deal? I actually would love this. It's a superfight to determine the pound for pound best fighter of the decade. This level of fight has never been heard of in a while, where the winner is the undisputed #1 fighter in the past 20 years. In this era of PEDs where our favorite players have been shamed by PED use, we actually have a guy that's willing to take Olympic style testing to prove that he's legit. And you're bashing the guy? With this testing, we'll get concrete evidence with the best testing the world that neither man is fighting dirty. The Nevada State Athletic Commission is a complete joke to athletes who know how to use PEDs. A urinanalysis post fight ain't gonna catch nothing unless you're inexperienced with PEDs. With this testing we can all have confidence that the boxer winning did it clean. Which is something we need these days. I don't understand some of yall guys. Yall are blindly defending a guy who doesn't want to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he's clean. Think about what you're saying. You're basically saying, "I don't want Manny tested like that because it's not right." What's not right about it if you don't use PEDs? It should be fine.

Take this example, let's relate this to regular people. What if you don't drink alcohol AT ALL and some rich guy offers you 200,000 dollars to drive from California to New York and the only requirement to get the money is that you had to pass five breathalyser tests (testing for NO alcohol in your system and not just .0 along the way. If you don't drink alcohol in the first place, would you turn down the guy's offer because it's "insulting" and "a hassle" to be tested? No way in hell. It's the same thing with Pacquiao. You're clean right? Just take the damn tests, get that money money, and give the fans the type of fight we've been waiting for for 20 years. If the fight doesn't go off, how can you Pacquiao fans justify him turning the fight down?

THIS IS NOT THE OLYMPICS!

The End.


If I were Manny, I would tell Floyd that I will take the test but it will cost him 10 Million dollars.

Wanna play ?

Money man?

Just say "sure thing we get tested together and while we are at it lets do a public polygraph test and ask each other some questions."

= Manny wins pre fight antics, Floyd shuts it.
Mind games.

[blegit]

Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?

Agreed that is also out of hand I mean 10 million per pound c'mon here...That is just crazy...I am not sure if that was thrown out before the request from Floyds camp for the Test or after but it is still out of hand...

10 million per pound is ridiculous but if it's applied to a previous proven offender, it sounds fair. i'm guessing that offender (floyd) will have second thoughts coming in over the agreed contract weight again

$10 million/pound is never fair. Lets be real. He has never missed making 147. No fighter would have even honored continuing that negotiation but PBF still agreed to such ridiculous request. I personally think PBF called their bluff with that request.

[generalbulldog]

Well look on the bright side, the circus of both camps have even other sports fans talking about it. Which imo is good. Boxing can always use new prospective fans.


It's all good. I still feel too much money is at stake for the fight not to happen. Everyone remembers when the Hatton-Pac fight was called off, and then a few days later it was on? I feel the same thing will happen here too.