Wrong Man at the Wrong Time

[jamiebhoy]

Which of your favourite boxers where around when their division was just stacked with people they couldn't beat to be an ATG but in a different era could have been truly huge.

First off I go for Tommy Hearns, despite what he achieved he still was in the shadow of Leonard and Hagler and didn't take on the best Duran so for me despite achieving great things he could have been up ther with some more household names.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Which of your favourite boxers where around when their division was just stacked with people they couldn't beat to be an ATG but in a different era could have been truly huge.

First off I go for Tommy Hearns, despite what he achieved he still was in the shadow of Leonard and Hagler and didn't take on the best Duran so for me despite achieving great things he could have been up ther with some more household names.

up to a certain point Tyson, i mean he's considered one of the greatest HW champs, but you could easily question how good most of his wins were against his opponents at the time, IMO he would have given any of the great heavies a run for their money, and would have fit in just nicely with Foreman, Ali, Frazier, and crew

[Master]

Herol Graham was due for a shot at Hagler lost against Kalambay, personal issues. Then loses against McCallum after an unfair point deduction and then walked into Jackson after the corner were going to throw in the towel. By the time he got another shot he was old and had no legs to last against Brewer, even though he had him down early on.

[JazMerkin]

I think Ken Norton gets very underrated due to being in the greatest HW era there has been. He just met a beast against Foreman and in his prime only really lost debatable decisions to Ali and Holmes, as well as beating Ali once. However, I feel that due to his less than aesthetically pleasing style and being overshadowed by the magneticism of Ali and Frazier and the raw power and fear generated by Foreman that he gets overlooked. He also was coming out of his prime by the time he fought Holmes so didn't really have a chance to dominate a weaker division, but was more the 4th guy when the division was great.

[ICB]

I think Ken Norton gets very underrated due to being in the greatest HW era there has been. He just met a beast against Foreman and in his prime only really lost debatable decisions to Ali and Holmes, as well as beating Ali once. However, I feel that due to his less than aesthetically pleasing style and being overshadowed by the magneticism of Ali and Frazier and the raw power and fear generated by Foreman that he gets overlooked. He also was coming out of his prime by the time he fought Holmes so didn't really have a chance to dominate a weaker division, but was more the 4th guy when the division was great.

I think Ken Norton would always fail, in any era. You keep mentioning the Larry Holmes fight, but i don't know how you had Ken Norton winning that personally. He lost atleast 7 rounds in a row, and despite a great comeback late on.

He didn't have a clean sweep all the way to the 15th round, he clearly lost the 13th round and one other of those later rounds was debatable aswell.

But forgetting that for a second, the reason he done well vs Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes. Is because he could take away there best weapon, which is there left jab. And also because there only mediocre punchers.

Everytime he was put in with a puncher he was KO'ed, the fact is Ken Norton didn't have a great chin. And he was also lucky he even won a version of a Heavyweight title. Because many people thought he lost to Jimmy Young.

Ken Norton's a good solid fighter, but put him in the 1980's he would of lost to Mike Tyson, Tim Witherspoon, and other punches like Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, ETC.

Put him in the 90's he would of lost to a handful of fighters, put him in 00's and he would lose to the Klitschko brothers.

I just can't see him dominating any era really, only if he was put in the older era. Where he had all the physical advantages.

[Spicoli]

Ike Quartey....this man had everything save for activity level it seems.One more KD or differing judge and he tops Oscar.Should have taken "w" over sqandered talent Jose L. Lopez,thought he beat Forrest also.

[boxer dude]

Which of your favourite boxers where around when their division was just stacked with people they couldn't beat to be an ATG but in a different era could have been truly huge.

First off I go for Tommy Hearns, despite what he achieved he still was in the shadow of Leonard and Hagler and didn't take on the best Duran so for me despite achieving great things he could have been up ther with some more household names.

actually hearns did take on Duran, he knocked him out cold like in the third round