I don't think it was a hard shot to the body at all. Bernard connected with the palm of the glove and to me it did not look like there was alot of force behind it; Even Manny Steward was not totally convinced by it either. If you want to see a convincing body shot then watch Gatti ko Dorin and see his whole rib cage move...Now that is a real body shot.
This is a recent Tommy Morrison fight. His oppenant does such a horrible job of overselling the knockout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TVsgPueEEk
Tyson vs McBride anyone. Tyson just sat on his ass waiting for someone to help him up.
I always say Ali Liston II. Not that the punch didn't land but the fact it looked as if he barely grazed his head.
I did always debate on the Oscar knockout but when you turn the volume up you can hear it clear as day and the only microphone in the ring was the one referee's backside. The pounding on the canvas thing I always thought was him being disappointed that he couldn't get up not because it hurt so much.
I believe the ODH body shot by Hopkins was a legitimate KO. Hopkins wanted a rematch and was carrying Oscar.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Geez, that really looked like a fake punch... That's the one that came to mind for me. It that the one where he got hit ontop of the head by a wild hook?
Do people really believe Hatton KO Castillo was fake? BoxRec reported he broke 4 ribs with that shot. Castillo's who body rippled with that shot. Hell, I thought it was top 5 KO of that year.
"Floyd needs to inject Xylocaine into his balls to gain the courage to fight Pacquiao."
- and I quote from some random guy on the internet
This place used to have more Hatton fans than any other site I have ever seen, the fanboyism was near that of Pacquiao today, they just all disappeared on Dec. 9, 2007 for some reason.
No one said Castillo took a dive, only that it looked like he might have decided not to get back up after getting dropped. He wasn't getting paid, after that shot he probably knew he couldn't win, so maybe he just stayed down. I'm not sure that is what happened, but plenty of people said they felt that was the case after the fight.
I've been hit hard in the liver before and it is a debilitating feeling.
All I've been talking about in this thread is how the Castillo KO might have appeared, I'm not saying I think he took a dive or that he quit necessarily, onlt that he appeared to know he was beaten and that it looked like he might have stayed down as a result. It is something I have heard before and I can understand why some people might feel that way. Hatton landed a series of bodyshots in the fourth round, I'm sure Castillo was in a bad way.
edit: After watching the final round again, I do think it was a legitimate knockout, but I remember think it suspicious at the time.
Last edited by CFH; 02-19-2010 at 03:25 PM.
I always thought that about the Seldon fight. Mike hit him on the top of the head. I can buy that it knocked him down, but Seldon was up on his feet and all smiles after the ten-count. I've never seen a guy happier after a loss. He was hanging on Mike like they were best friends.
When De La Hoya beat Vargas I didn't see why that left hook put him down. It was the original angle, though. It almost looked like a jab and Vargas flopped over like a fish. When I saw it from a different angle I saw how well that punch connected. I was surprised Vargas got up.
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