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    Default Re: Using this criteria Who's ranked higher all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    In-ring Performance
    Achievements
    Dominance
    Mainstream Appeal


    Marvin Hagler, BHop, RJJ, JCalzaghe, Antonio Tarver, Eubank, SRL, james toney, Sweet pea...
    In Ring Performance
    SRL- His fights w Duran, Hearns, Hagler alone dwarf the comp of everyone on the list but PW

    Achievements-
    SRL we have to go by quality of opp, amount of titles etc...Leonard beat Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, I mean these guys are in the top 25 ATG P4P...He won titles at 147, 154, 160, 168, 175

    Dominance
    Hagler absolutely ruled the MW division and beat his opp silly

    Mainstream appeal-
    SRL this guy in the 80's was DLH, Pacquiao, and everyone else on the list rolled into one...Those who don't realize the popularity of Leonard in his hey day are too young to have been around back then...He was the face of Boxing after Ali retired

    \Leonard is the top of this list....Not saying the best fighter of them all but still using the criteria he dominated....Tarver and Eubank dont even belong in the company of the others
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    Default Re: Using this criteria Who's ranked higher all time?

    Ok, all of these are in order

    In-ring Performance

    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Marvin Hagler
    Bernard Hopkins
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Achievements

    Roy Jones Jr
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Bernard Hopkins
    Pernell Whitaker
    Marvin Hagler
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Dominance

    Marvin Hagler
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Bernard Hopkins
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver

    Mainstream Appeal

    Sugar Ray Leonard (& it's not even close here)
    Marvin Hagler
    Roy Jones Jr
    Chris Eubank (only in UK)
    Bernard Hopkins
    Antonio Tarver
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Pernell Whitaker

    On the last one, it's Leonard in a far out lead, followed by Hagler, who's closely followed by Jones than the rest are all a similar level.

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    Default Re: Using this criteria Who's ranked higher all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Ok, all of these are in order

    In-ring Performance

    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Marvin Hagler
    Bernard Hopkins
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Achievements

    Roy Jones Jr
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Bernard Hopkins
    Pernell Whitaker
    Marvin Hagler
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Dominance

    Marvin Hagler
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Bernard Hopkins
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver

    Mainstream Appeal

    Sugar Ray Leonard (& it's not even close here)
    Marvin Hagler
    Roy Jones Jr
    Chris Eubank (only in UK)
    Bernard Hopkins
    Antonio Tarver
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Pernell Whitaker

    On the last one, it's Leonard in a far out lead, followed by Hagler, who's closely followed by Jones than the rest are all a similar level.
    You really think Pernell was more Dominate then Jones was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Ok, all of these are in order

    In-ring Performance

    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Marvin Hagler
    Bernard Hopkins
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Achievements

    Roy Jones Jr
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Bernard Hopkins
    Pernell Whitaker
    Marvin Hagler
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Dominance

    Marvin Hagler
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Bernard Hopkins
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver

    Mainstream Appeal

    Sugar Ray Leonard (& it's not even close here)
    Marvin Hagler
    Roy Jones Jr
    Chris Eubank (only in UK)
    Bernard Hopkins
    Antonio Tarver
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Pernell Whitaker

    On the last one, it's Leonard in a far out lead, followed by Hagler, who's closely followed by Jones than the rest are all a similar level.
    You really think Pernell was more Dominate then Jones was?
    He maybe didn't dominate his opponents as much, but I felt his opposition was better & he did properly dominate the Lightweight & Welterweight division imo. Jones swept through to LHW, but I felt his opposition was too hideous at times there, which is what swayed me. Maybe opposition shouldn't come under dominance, but it's the same reason I have Calzaghe under Leonard despite him dominating SMW for so many years.

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    Default Re: Using this criteria Who's ranked higher all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Ok, all of these are in order

    In-ring Performance

    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Marvin Hagler
    Bernard Hopkins
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Achievements

    Roy Jones Jr
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Bernard Hopkins
    Pernell Whitaker
    Marvin Hagler
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver
    Chris Eubank

    Dominance

    Marvin Hagler
    Pernell Whitaker
    Roy Jones Jr
    Bernard Hopkins
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Joe Calzaghe
    James Toney
    Antonio Tarver

    Mainstream Appeal

    Sugar Ray Leonard (& it's not even close here)
    Marvin Hagler
    Roy Jones Jr
    Chris Eubank (only in UK)
    Bernard Hopkins
    Antonio Tarver
    James Toney
    Joe Calzaghe
    Pernell Whitaker

    On the last one, it's Leonard in a far out lead, followed by Hagler, who's closely followed by Jones than the rest are all a similar level.
    You really think Pernell was more Dominate then Jones was?
    He maybe didn't dominate his opponents as much, but I felt his opposition was better & he did properly dominate the Lightweight & Welterweight division imo. Jones swept through to LHW, but I felt his opposition was too hideous at times there, which is what swayed me. Maybe opposition shouldn't come under dominance, but it's the same reason I have Calzaghe under Leonard despite him dominating SMW for so many years.
    Fair call and one I agree with 100%

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