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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Has any well-known journalist/commentator/analyst/expert/etc. has straight out thrown crap at Manny for refusing to have his blood tested Olympic style and raising suspicion for all of the excuses?

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Has any well-known journalist/commentator/analyst/expert/etc. has straight out thrown crap at Manny for refusing to have his blood tested Olympic style and raising suspicion for all of the excuses?
    Teddy Atlas questioned Manny Pac, supposedly he has an unnamed source that saw Pacquiao email the Mayweathers asking what would happen if he failed the drug tests and if they can keep it a secret for his image.

    There you have it.

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Thats a crock of shit.....

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Has any well-known journalist/commentator/analyst/expert/etc. has straight out thrown crap at Manny for refusing to have his blood tested Olympic style and raising suspicion for all of the excuses?
    Teddy Atlas questioned Manny Pac, supposedly he has an unnamed source that saw Pacquiao email the Mayweathers asking what would happen if he failed the drug tests and if they can keep it a secret for his image.

    There you have it.
    Is that a joke ?

    Pedro Fernandez who runs the RingTalk site on the net has been very critical of Manny for not taking the blood test

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Has any well-known journalist/commentator/analyst/expert/etc. has straight out thrown crap at Manny for refusing to have his blood tested Olympic style and raising suspicion for all of the excuses?
    Teddy Atlas questioned Manny Pac, supposedly he has an unnamed source that saw Pacquiao email the Mayweathers asking what would happen if he failed the drug tests and if they can keep it a secret for his image.

    There you have it.
    I remember hearing this, was this ever official or was it just a rumor?

    Sure, many magazines, sports channels, radio, etc. have questioned Floyd's resume, say he's running away from Manny, etc. But I am not sure if there are equal amount of OFFICIAL sources that throw crap at Manny for refusing a blood test, talking about suspicion for cheating, etc.

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    I am!


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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Not really, as someone with a journalism degree, I have to say that 90% of boxing journalism would get you thrown out of the NUJ if it was investigated. Jeff Ryan, Bill Dettloff and David Mayo stand alone as ones who actually name their sources (there are a few decent ones here in the UK as well).

    Hauser is a talented writer, but he frequently quotes accusations by unnamed sources, which is terrible practice. Part of the problem is that so much of reporting is web-based and very rarely held to account.

    An example was last week when BoxingScene posted up an interview with 'Floyd Mayweather' regarding the Pacquiao-Clottey fight, taken from a Filipino newspaper, which itself had taken it from a site that only existed for that day. The following day they discovered that Mayweather hadn't even watched the fight because he and Mosley were filming a promo for their fight in LA at the time. Any decent journalist would have verified the sources before publishing the story. The fact a story someone just made up was actually published by a supposedly reputable newspaper and website is just embarassing.

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
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    I somehow enjoyed reading Bert Sugar and Dan Rafael's articles, blogs, interviews, etc. until recently. I got disappointed to see how both of them simply can't hide their "Go Pack...Mayweather is no good" attitude .

    Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing commentators/analysts out there? In one way or the other I thought George Foreman was ok as far as I remember.
    There was one person Foreman was REALLLY biased towards and that was Oscar De La Hoya.
    He seemingly couldn't remove his tongue from Oscar's backside for whatever reason! For example he thought Oscar won the Quartey fight "hands down!" which I found bizarre. Otherwise he generally called fights how he felt he saw them.
    What about when George Foreman said he thought, Pernell Whitaker lost to Policarpo Diaz. I literally had my mouth open for atleast a minute. I couldn't believe it, Pernell Whitaker won atleast 10 rounds with 2 knockdowns as i remember, that was the most bizarre comment i've ever heard.

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    I somehow enjoyed reading Bert Sugar and Dan Rafael's articles, blogs, interviews, etc. until recently. I got disappointed to see how both of them simply can't hide their "Go Pack...Mayweather is no good" attitude .

    Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing commentators/analysts out there? In one way or the other I thought George Foreman was ok as far as I remember.
    There was one person Foreman was REALLLY biased towards and that was Oscar De La Hoya.
    He seemingly couldn't remove his tongue from Oscar's backside for whatever reason! For example he thought Oscar won the Quartey fight "hands down!" which I found bizarre. Otherwise he generally called fights how he felt he saw them.
    What about when George Foreman said he thought, Pernell Whitaker lost to Policarpo Diaz. I literally had my mouth open for atleast a minute. I couldn't believe it, Pernell Whitaker won atleast 10 rounds with 2 knockdowns as i remember, that was the most bizarre comment i've ever heard.
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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    I somehow enjoyed reading Bert Sugar and Dan Rafael's articles, blogs, interviews, etc. until recently. I got disappointed to see how both of them simply can't hide their "Go Pack...Mayweather is no good" attitude .

    Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing commentators/analysts out there? In one way or the other I thought George Foreman was ok as far as I remember.

    NOPE...they're all biased towards thier favs..as is everyone on this forum. NO matter how objective we all might try to be..we lean towards our favs.
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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Well I think it's human nature to favour certain people so to be honest no I don't think there is such a thing as an unbiased journalist. There are ones who try and put common sense and reasoning into there opinions though such as Colin Hart. He's my favourite I think.

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Saw a journalist (Jim Rome) on ESPN challenge Roach/Pac excuses on the blood tests, interesting, not something we see often.

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    After the shite that was making my ears hurt last night, i have to say, it's unlikely.

    I'm referring to the Abraham - Dirrell broadcast on Showtime.
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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Thomas hauser is like the Queen Mother of boxing journalists. He's Ali's biographer and a friend of his, written a ton of other boxing books and you'd think he'd be as close to impartial about boxing as you can get. When there was the Mayweather steroids thing going on over Christmas he wrote an article where he listed a whole bunch of known steroid abusers, admitted PED abuse was endemic in boxing, then said anybody accusing Manny, especially the Mayweathers, was a scumbag because there was no evidence of any wrongdoing, then he accused De La Hoya of using steroids and challenged him to release all his previous test results. A whole smorgasbors of contradictions in one article. So if Hauser can't be impartial I don't think any of his younger colleagues can be.

    Plus like has already been mentioned Manny is the story in boxing right now and for a wider audience and that insulates him from a lot of legitimate criticism. Mayweather may make great TV on 24-7 but the wider public don't exactly see him as a positive role model or somebody they can admire. With Manny it's different, so you have a bunch of guys desperate to have access/interviews with him and not lose out to their competitors as well as editorial pressure from the guys who employ them to be nice to the guy everybody wants to read about. So it's inevitable you're going to get the kind of biased coverage you do over Manny and the whole PED thing. Unless some actual evidence turns up that's the way it will stay too.

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    Default Re: Are there true unbiased journalists or boxing experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Thomas hauser is like the Queen Mother of boxing journalists. He's Ali's biographer and a friend of his, written a ton of other boxing books and you'd think he'd be as close to impartial about boxing as you can get. When there was the Mayweather steroids thing going on over Christmas he wrote an article where he listed a whole bunch of known steroid abusers, admitted PED abuse was endemic in boxing, then said anybody accusing Manny, especially the Mayweathers, was a scumbag because there was no evidence of any wrongdoing, then he accused De La Hoya of using steroids and challenged him to release all his previous test results. A whole smorgasbors of contradictions in one article. So if Hauser can't be impartial I don't think any of his younger colleagues can be.

    Plus like has already been mentioned Manny is the story in boxing right now and for a wider audience and that insulates him from a lot of legitimate criticism. Mayweather may make great TV on 24-7 but the wider public don't exactly see him as a positive role model or somebody they can admire. With Manny it's different, so you have a bunch of guys desperate to have access/interviews with him and not lose out to their competitors as well as editorial pressure from the guys who employ them to be nice to the guy everybody wants to read about. So it's inevitable you're going to get the kind of biased coverage you do over Manny and the whole PED thing. Unless some actual evidence turns up that's the way it will stay too.
    The info in that article about the apparent common drug use in boxing was eye-opening though. If it's so widely known why did Team Floyd bring it up now? Personally I think Pac was in the wrong but it was interesting so many in the "know" thought Floyd was running.
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