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    Default Re: Dominance! (There will be spoilers about Wlad-Chambers)

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Corrie Sanders
    This version of Wlad would destroy Sanders.
    Hard to say that really, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't really met a dangerous fighter like Corrie Sanders for some years now. It was Corrie Sander's speed and aggression that won him the fight, he literally stormed out in the 1st round and Wladimir Klitschko never had a chance.

    I honestly don't think Wladimir Klitschko, could deal with a prime/dangerous Corrie Sanders. And he certainly wouldn't be able to just cruise to victory by using his jab either, his jab wouldn't be as effective against a Southpaw, especially a fast Southpaw like Corrie Sanders.

    Remember even Vitali Klitschko had to take some hard shots, from Corrie Sanders before he won. Especially in the 1st round where he was quite badly stunned, Wladimir Klitschko wouldn't of been able to survive that onslaught.

    Styles make fights and just because Wladimir Klitschko has improved, mostly due to the fact he fights more cautiously. Doesn't mean he would beat Corrie Sanders, i just can't see Wladimir Klitschko being able to hide behind his jab all night.

    Considering Corrie Sanders is a Southpaw, is very quick handed. Plus he has a fair dig aswell.
    Corrie Sanders is a tough fight for Wlad no doubt. His handspeed was sneaky and he had good pop.

    I personally think that Wlad could deal with that now though.

    Since then Wlad has learned to control the pace and distance better, his footwork has improved, he is alot harder to hit now and he learned that him fighting on the inside isn't a good idea which is why he ties up his opponents.

    Wlad has proved he can deal with speedy guys like Byrd and Chambers as well.

    I would see the current version of Wlad controlling the fight with his jab, he wouldn't come forward against Sanders like he did before either, When Sanders did open up Klitschko would use his superior footwork to get out of the way and reset with his jab. His right hand would be a key weapon as well. It wouldn't be easy though and Sanders would always have a punchers chance.

    Comparing Vitali and Wlad is a bit pointless imo, they have two different styles.

    Wlad is more cautious, has the superior boxing ability/footwork/defense,etc where Vitali is more offensive and is more durable but is easier to hit.

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    Default Re: Dominance! (There will be spoilers about Wlad-Chambers)

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Corrie Sanders
    This version of Wlad would destroy Sanders.
    Hard to say that really, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't really met a dangerous fighter like Corrie Sanders for some years now. It was Corrie Sander's speed and aggression that won him the fight, he literally stormed out in the 1st round and Wladimir Klitschko never had a chance.

    I honestly don't think Wladimir Klitschko, could deal with a prime/dangerous Corrie Sanders. And he certainly wouldn't be able to just cruise to victory by using his jab either, his jab wouldn't be as effective against a Southpaw, especially a fast Southpaw like Corrie Sanders.

    Remember even Vitali Klitschko had to take some hard shots, from Corrie Sanders before he won. Especially in the 1st round where he was quite badly stunned, Wladimir Klitschko wouldn't of been able to survive that onslaught.

    Styles make fights and just because Wladimir Klitschko has improved, mostly due to the fact he fights more cautiously. Doesn't mean he would beat Corrie Sanders, i just can't see Wladimir Klitschko being able to hide behind his jab all night.

    Considering Corrie Sanders is a Southpaw, is very quick handed. Plus he has a fair dig aswell.
    Gotta disagree with you here pal. I think the new version of Wlad takes Sanders out. Yes Vitali had to take some good shots to get Sanders out but his style lets him take shots anyway, Wlads new one does not.

    Also I remember Sanders going the distance with blown up Johnny Nelson when Nelson was coming off a KO defeat to Norbert Ekassi and before Nelson was really any good. Not to mention the fact that he was KO'd by Hasim Rahman too not long before the Wlad fight, I know Rahman could punch and if he caught you, you were gone (just ask Lennox) but he was too good for Sanders. For me with the shots Sanders took, todays Wlad could look really good against him and get a mid round KO!

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    Default Re: Dominance! (There will be spoilers about Wlad-Chambers)

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    When will this guy become a top 10 p4p?I hope this cements him as one of the best in the sport. Wladimir Klitschko is big, faster, and powerful. He really impressed me with his athletic ability in this one. Chambers is very quick and Wladimir completely controlled his speed. Not only that but Wlad showed a lot of speed himself.

    He's truly a special fighter who may never be appreciated in his time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    When will this guy become a top 10 p4p?I hope this cements him as one of the best in the sport. Wladimir Klitschko is big, faster, and powerful. He really impressed me with his athletic ability in this one. Chambers is very quick and Wladimir completely controlled his speed. Not only that but Wlad showed a lot of speed himself.

    He's truly a special fighter who may never be appreciated in his time.
    See now this is exaggeration. He beat a smaller guy who had no dangerous punch power. What is impressive about this?

    Wlad has:
    height advantage
    reach advantage
    power advantage

    And with these advantages, it took 12 rounds. Now, I am not hating ok? I'm just saying that we shouldnt blow this out of proportion. When someone faces adversity and wins, thats one thing. Wlad had no adversity. He just had to try to land punches. If Eddie hit him, no way would eddie KO Wlad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    He's truly a special fighter who may never be appreciated in his time.
    Hi guys, I can't agree with you here for two simple reasons. This weekend's fight (March 20, 2010):
    • At the beginning of the fight Wlad knocked Chambers' gloves down, but didn't return the opposite greet.
    • At the end of the fight, Wlad swung at and punched Chambers while he was down and out.
    Anyway, Chambers' team (trainer) could've / should've thrown in the towel when Chambers got shook-up the first time in round 12. No need to have him suffer like that, I hope that someone will see it and actually replace that incompetent kind of leadership (as Chambers was awesome, against the unstoppable force, until he got totally worn-out I'm guessing).

    Thanks for reading, hope it wasn't boring.

    P.S. There are two threads, one old and a fresh one @
    • saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/58563-wlad-vs-chambers-3.html
    • saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/59696-klitschko-chambers-weekend-anyone-else-excited.html
    Last edited by nimd4; 03-21-2010 at 12:52 AM. Reason: Took out a provocative sentence. :f

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimd4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    He's truly a special fighter who may never be appreciated in his time.
    Hi guys, I can't agree with you here for two simple reasons. This weekend's fight (March 20, 2010):
    • At the beginning of the fight Wlad knocked Chambers' gloves down, but didn't return the opposite greet.
    • At the end of the fight, Wlad swung at and punched Chambers while he was down and out.
    Nothing really special about that, just another thug in the ring. I'd like to say that maybe he'll end up fighting long enough, so that this kind of thing will catch up to him, but for my first post here that would be messed up.

    Anyway, Chambers' team (trainer) could've / should've thrown in the towel when Chambers got shook-up the first time in round 12. No need to have him suffer like that, I hope that someone will see it and actually replace that incompetent kind of leadership (as Chambers was awesome, against the unstoppable force, until he got totally worn-out I'm guessing).

    Thanks for reading, hope it wasn't boring.

    P.S. There are two threads, one old and a fresh one @
    • saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/58563-wlad-vs-chambers-3.html
    • saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/59696-klitschko-chambers-weekend-anyone-else-excited.html
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    Default Re: Dominance! (There will be spoilers about Wlad-Chambers)

    Hi, tnx. I edited the post to remove that sour remark I made -- but I guess I've done it a little too late. xd

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    Wlad bored me once again he just very rarely throws his right hand Chambers should of been out of there by the 6th.Even Manny Steward didnt seem happy with Wlad not wanting to punch.

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    Wlad did okay,considering that Eddie did a "Clottey"...Wlad just needs to be more aggressive to be exciting...
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    I don't think this is fair. The guy Chambers' fought before Wlad was actually a little bigger than Wlad and quick and had good technical skills. Chagaev beat up Valuev. I don't think height alone is the reason Wlad is so good. Also using Corrie Sanders as an analogy to say what Wlad isn't good IMO is a little unfair. It's like saying Pep wasn't good because he couldn't get the better of Saddler. Or Marquez against Mayweather. I think stylewise, Sanders who is quick, southpaw, taller, and heavyhanded is the worst matchup for Wladimir. He would do a lot better against a orthodox fighter with those same traits, but a tall southpaw has too easy of a time landing on Wlad because his chin simply isn't good enough, and nobody can avoid a quick southpaw forever. I honestly think Wlad would have beaten almost everyone from the 90's and 70's when heavyweight boxing was in its "glory days"

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebif View Post
    Wlad bored me once again he just very rarely throws his right hand Chambers should of been out of there by the 6th.Even Manny Steward didnt seem happy with Wlad not wanting to punch.
    I kinda felt that Manny Steward was almost showing disgust thst Chambers was still there, that talking to he gave him before the 12th, man, Wlad should be ashamed of himself... Such a poor punch output and extremely low level of aggression for a giant physical monster of a heavyweight. I think the hook he caught Chambers with was about the third hook he'd thrown all night. Ha. Jab Jab Straight Right, Jab Jab, Jab, Jab Jab Jab, jab Straight Right, Jab Jab.... Jab...................Jab. He's surely the most monotonous boxer out there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimd4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    He's truly a special fighter who may never be appreciated in his time.
    Hi guys, I can't agree with you here for two simple reasons. This weekend's fight (March 20, 2010):
    • At the beginning of the fight Wlad knocked Chambers' gloves down, but didn't return the opposite greet.
    • At the end of the fight, Wlad swung at and punched Chambers while he was down and out.
    Anyway, Chambers' team (trainer) could've / should've thrown in the towel when Chambers got shook-up the first time in round 12. No need to have him suffer like that, I hope that someone will see it and actually replace that incompetent kind of leadership (as Chambers was awesome, against the unstoppable force, until he got totally worn-out I'm guessing).

    Thanks for reading, hope it wasn't boring.

    P.S. There are two threads, one old and a fresh one @
    • saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/58563-wlad-vs-chambers-3.html
    • saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/59696-klitschko-chambers-weekend-anyone-else-excited.html
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    Default Re: Dominance! (There will be spoilers about Wlad-Chambers)

    There's no spoilers here....wlad wins !!?? No freakin way. Any guy povetkin can beat wlad can beat better. Same thing would happen to haye. If he'd quit running his mouth drawing pictures and fighting slow circus freaks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    There's no spoilers here....wlad wins !!?? No freakin way. Any guy povetkin can beat wlad can beat better. Same thing would happen to haye. If he'd quit running his mouth drawing pictures and fighting slow circus freaks...
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