Andre Dirrell....

[Taeth]

THere is plenty of evidence in boxing itself of delated responses to being knocked out or concussed. Abraham was getting close, and he had Dirrel stunned in the 10th, but Dirrell only went down there it looked because he tripped on Abraham's foot. Sure Abraham was catching DIrrell with a few punches, but DIrrell didn't look hurt by any of them in the 11th, and there was absolutely no reason for him to give up in the fight he didn't look tired, from what I've read and heard he works out exceptionally hard, and he showed it at the end of hte Froch fight, and he looked in good shape in this fight as well. Abraham was getting close, but it was too little too late, and I think Dirrell was adjusting to it also in the 11th and he was avoiding shots better than in the 10th were it caught him by surprise.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who cares what direll did after the fight. In it he beat a guy who everyone damn near laughed at when the idea of him winning was even brought up . And as soon as abraham threw that punch the fight was over anyway. Direll could have done it wwe style and cut himself for fake blood and the whole nine. Boxrec doesn't care about any of that. And nobody else should either. I've said it before all this suspision and anger should be targeted toward abraham for robbing us of the end of that fight. Win or loose to hit a guy who was down then (speaking of acting) turning off your english after showtime showed you using all over town was a serious bitch move..... Abraham is a great tough fighter, and will probably win his next fight. But for that night he was a real dissapointment.

You talk such fucking crap it's unreal.

how biased you are is unreal

[Hunter]

Yeah - I mean why would Dirrell want to continue, Andre floored Arthur for the first time in his career and was giving the King a beat down for the ages and was on his way to an easy points decision or stoppage...but hey, why not take a disqualification......

[Majesty]

Fans of Abraham will say that because they want a way to say that Abraham would have stopped Dirrell sooner or later so that their prediction would have been right so that he needed a bailout.

[Gandalf]

I struggle to believe that it was fake. I mean, why would anyone want to look like such an idiot live on television? I was in hysterics watching it and even now seeing it on You Tube, it cracks me up. I don't think he was acting, it was just a delayed reaction. I do believe that Dirrell was wilting though and getting very tired. Every punch would have been getting harder from then until the end because he was physically done. Abraham did get the knockdown and Dirrell was turning to jelly. I'm convinced that Abraham knocks him out properly next time.

[Conrad]

Abraham knocks him out properly next time.

I agree, they could meet in the semi's and my money's on Abraham. I'm of the opinion he was acting though, for me there was no real power or weight behind the shot and Dirrell took his chance to get a breather..

Everyone goes on and on about how bad it was that Abraham hit him whilst down but this happens all the time in boxing. If Dirrell hadn't reacted the way he did I doubt AA even gets deducted a point.

Take Berto Vs Rodriguez for example, two possible rabbit punches followed by a definite punch whilst down and the commentators don't even mention it. No complaints from Rodriguez so no DQ or penalty for Berto...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asgoXEzdQWE

[ono]

I have no clue who was banned and who was booed for having this opinion, but I'm in agreement with those who suspected Dirrell of faking the funk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kdVzRdUiF4

He was faking it. It was obvious. Don't blame him really though. It was a cheap shot and he was running out of gas. Once he went down he kinda had to stick with what he was doing. Unfortunately that included an over the top acting performance that even the doctor and the broadcast team got in on.

1) - You don't wince in pain, grab your face and then fall unconscious. Sorry, but you don't.

2) - You don't 'wake up' confused and then suddenly remember exactly how you got knocked out, just because somebody told you what happened.

3) - When recovering from convulsions brought on by a KO, it's unlikely that you will react to something somebody has said in the crowd. It's unlikely that you would even notice, unless you're overly sensitive to something.....criticism of his acting skills perhaps.

4) - The Dr wouldn't break from treating him to conduct an interview with the broadcaster if Dirrell had a suspected brain bleed.

5) It's also highly, highly likely that a concusion would show up on a scan, which he had, and surprisingly everything was perfect. Again, weird considering he was convulsing from being brutally ko'd just a few hours earlier.

Since when were you a fucking doctor? I spoke to a neurologist who boxes at my gym about the fight, and she said under no uncertain terms that it looked exactly like a concussion, and there is often a delayed response when somebody gets knocked out.

We've seen it in boxing a few times. He didn't knock him out, but watch Roy's first knockdown of Felix Trinidad and that came quite a bit after he landed the punch.

He was dominating the fight except for the tenth, and maybe you guys should watch the 11th again because he didn't look tired in that round at all.

I don't need to be a doctor to understand when somebody is feigning injury. Not when they do it as ridiculously as that.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I struggle to believe that it was fake. I mean, why would anyone want to look like such an idiot live on television? I was in hysterics watching it and even now seeing it on You Tube, it cracks me up. I don't think he was acting, it was just a delayed reaction. I do believe that Dirrell was wilting though and getting very tired. Every punch would have been getting harder from then until the end because he was physically done. Abraham did get the knockdown and Dirrell was turning to jelly. I'm convinced that Abraham knocks him out properly next time.

IMO he gets outboxed even worse then the first time, and if he's too aggressive and desperate he gets KO'd, Dirrell already showed that he had enough power to hurt Abraham, especially in the early rounds

[skel1983]

Who cares what direll did after the fight. In it he beat a guy who everyone damn near laughed at when the idea of him winning was even brought up . And as soon as abraham threw that punch the fight was over anyway. Direll could have done it wwe style and cut himself for fake blood and the whole nine. Boxrec doesn't care about any of that. And nobody else should either. I've said it before all this suspision and anger should be targeted toward abraham for robbing us of the end of that fight. Win or loose to hit a guy who was down then (speaking of acting) turning off your english after showtime showed you using all over town was a serious bitch move..... Abraham is a great tough fighter, and will probably win his next fight. But for that night he was a real dissapointment.

Do you actually make this shit up or do you just believe it when you say it out loud?? If you go look back the majority had Dirrell boxing and winning against Abraham.

Are you for real on your other points?? So who cares if Dirrell was acting is your point? Haha Abraham should never have done what he did and the DQ was the right decision but just to say what Dirrell did was not important is a joke, if he did put that act on he is a disgrace to the sport his family and very cowardly, there is not enough evidence to say he did but to just say who cares if he did or not is pathetic.

[ninjaspy3]

Abraham knocks him out properly next time.

I agree, they could meet in the semi's and my money's on Abraham. I'm of the opinion he was acting though, for me there was no real power or weight behind the shot and Dirrell took his chance to get a breather..

Everyone goes on and on about how bad it was that Abraham hit him whilst down but this happens all the time in boxing. If Dirrell hadn't reacted the way he did I doubt AA even gets deducted a point.

Take Berto Vs Rodriguez for example, two possible rabbit punches followed by a definite punch whilst down and the commentators don't even mention it. No complaints from Rodriguez so no DQ or penalty for Berto...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asgoXEzdQWE

The punch while down was neither as clean or has hard as the one that took place in the Dirrell fight. Also there was almost no pause between the hits in the video here so it looks way less intentional as the one Abraham fired off.

Honestly I think everyone who wants to complain about Dirrell's acting is just biased. You all are 100% ready to excuse Abraham but at the same time blame Dirrell. It is nonsense. It is apparent that you were hoping to see Dirrell lose because: A) you dont like him, or B) you like Abraham, or C) both reasons. But it didn't happen so now it's time to complain. That's what is really going on here, but no one will admit it. You guys are also not very good actors.

[Conrad]

Honestly I think everyone who wants to complain about Dirrell's acting is just biased. You all are 100% ready to excuse Abraham but at the same time blame Dirrell. It is nonsense. It is apparent that you were hoping to see Dirrell lose because: A) you dont like him, or B) you like Abraham, or C) both reasons. But it didn't happen so now it's time to complain. That's what is really going on here, but no one will admit it. You guys are also not very good actors.

I have absolutely no affiliation to either fighter and can honestly say wasn't bothered who won. I'm British and have no preference when watching a German and American fight. This whole 'European' thing is strange to me, just bacuase I'm from the same continent as Abraham doesn't mean I support him.

Either way, does anybody honestly believe Abraham gets DQ'd if Dirrell reacts in the same way Rodrigeuz did in the video I posted? i.e does nothing? And the pause you talk about in the Dirrell fight is exagerrated in slo mo, in real time it's not half as bad...

[Hunter]

Dirrell will stop Abraham next time. Andre now knows he can hurt and easily outbox Arthur. Next time Dirrell will sit down on punches and score the KO.

[ninjaspy3]

Honestly I think everyone who wants to complain about Dirrell's acting is just biased. You all are 100% ready to excuse Abraham but at the same time blame Dirrell. It is nonsense. It is apparent that you were hoping to see Dirrell lose because: A) you dont like him, or B) you like Abraham, or C) both reasons. But it didn't happen so now it's time to complain. That's what is really going on here, but no one will admit it. You guys are also not very good actors.

I have absolutely no affiliation to either fighter and can honestly say wasn't bothered who won. I'm British and have no preference when watching a German and American fight. This whole 'European' thing is strange to me, just bacuase I'm from the same continent as Abraham doesn't mean I support him.

Either way, does anybody honestly believe Abraham gets DQ'd if Dirrell reacts in the same way Rodrigeuz did in the video I posted? i.e does nothing? And the pause you talk about in the Dirrell fight is exagerrated in slo mo, in real time it's not half as bad...

Let's get to the root of the situation here.

The question that is to be asked shouldnt really be "Was he acting?"
The question should be "Should the fight have continued after the illegal blow?"

Now look at the facts:

Dirrell was ahead on points and Abraham seemed to be coming on a bit stronger...

Could Dirrell have won? Possibly. Could Abraham have scored a late KO? Possibly. - But we will never know.

After Abraham scored an invalid shot on Dirrell (who is known not to have the toughest chin), had the fight gone on, it is very likely Abraham would have won because Dirrell would have been hurt and no longer "in the game" because of that blow.

Obviously Abraham should not be allowed to win a fight because of the advantage gained from that illegal blow. So, should the fight have been stooped? -YES- Was the fight stopped? -YES- At the time of stoppage, was Dirrell winning?" -YES-

What else do we need to talk about? The fight ended exactly as it should have given the circumstances. Now someone come and prove me wrong.

[ono]

Honestly I think everyone who wants to complain about Dirrell's acting is just biased. You all are 100% ready to excuse Abraham but at the same time blame Dirrell. It is nonsense. It is apparent that you were hoping to see Dirrell lose because: A) you dont like him, or B) you like Abraham, or C) both reasons. But it didn't happen so now it's time to complain. That's what is really going on here, but no one will admit it. You guys are also not very good actors.

I have absolutely no affiliation to either fighter and can honestly say wasn't bothered who won. I'm British and have no preference when watching a German and American fight. This whole 'European' thing is strange to me, just bacuase I'm from the same continent as Abraham doesn't mean I support him.

Either way, does anybody honestly believe Abraham gets DQ'd if Dirrell reacts in the same way Rodrigeuz did in the video I posted? i.e does nothing? And the pause you talk about in the Dirrell fight is exagerrated in slo mo, in real time it's not half as bad...

Let's get to the root of the situation here.

The question that is to be asked shouldnt really be "Was he acting?"
The question should be "Should the fight have continued after the illegal blow?"

Now look at the facts:

Dirrell was ahead on points and Abraham seemed to be coming on a bit stronger...

Could Dirrell have won? Possibly. Could Abraham have scored a late KO? Possibly. - But we will never know.

After Abraham scored an invalid shot on Dirrell (who is known not to have the toughest chin), had the fight gone on, it is very likely Abraham would have won because Dirrell would have been hurt and no longer "in the game" because of that blow.

Obviously Abraham should not be allowed to win a fight because of the advantage gained from that illegal blow. So, should the fight have been stooped? -YES- Was the fight stopped? -YES- At the time of stoppage, was Dirrell winning?" -YES-

What else do we need to talk about? The fight ended exactly as it should have given the circumstances. Now someone come and prove me wrong.

People are talking about whether or not Dirrell was play-acting.

[skel1983]

Honestly I think everyone who wants to complain about Dirrell's acting is just biased. You all are 100% ready to excuse Abraham but at the same time blame Dirrell. It is nonsense. It is apparent that you were hoping to see Dirrell lose because: A) you dont like him, or B) you like Abraham, or C) both reasons. But it didn't happen so now it's time to complain. That's what is really going on here, but no one will admit it. You guys are also not very good actors.

I have absolutely no affiliation to either fighter and can honestly say wasn't bothered who won. I'm British and have no preference when watching a German and American fight. This whole 'European' thing is strange to me, just bacuase I'm from the same continent as Abraham doesn't mean I support him.

Either way, does anybody honestly believe Abraham gets DQ'd if Dirrell reacts in the same way Rodrigeuz did in the video I posted? i.e does nothing? And the pause you talk about in the Dirrell fight is exagerrated in slo mo, in real time it's not half as bad...

Let's get to the root of the situation here.

The question that is to be asked shouldnt really be "Was he acting?"
The question should be "Should the fight have continued after the illegal blow?"

Now look at the facts:

Dirrell was ahead on points and Abraham seemed to be coming on a bit stronger...

Could Dirrell have won? Possibly. Could Abraham have scored a late KO? Possibly. - But we will never know.

After Abraham scored an invalid shot on Dirrell (who is known not to have the toughest chin), had the fight gone on, it is very likely Abraham would have won because Dirrell would have been hurt and no longer "in the game" because of that blow.

Obviously Abraham should not be allowed to win a fight because of the advantage gained from that illegal blow. So, should the fight have been stooped? -YES- Was the fight stopped? -YES- At the time of stoppage, was Dirrell winning?" -YES-

What else do we need to talk about? The fight ended exactly as it should have given the circumstances. Now someone come and prove me wrong.

I think you are in the wrong thread all your points are valid but go have a little look at the thread starters statement he is asking weather you think Dirrell was acting or not .