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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Are you really? its a very simple term

    Styles make fights.
    THIS. Pacquiao destroyed DLH & Hatton because 1. they couldn't deal with his speed and 2. they couldn't match it.. Mayweather however can do both of those, and what's more he'll be FAR harder to hit than DLH and Hatton were. Pac mans aggression worked for him in his recent fights but the more aggressive he is against Floyd the more openings he will leave, and Floyd WILL exploit them.

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Chris, Please remind me again on these so called reasons why he cant take the test after the 30 day period..let me try:

    'i dont like needles'. (loads of ink on his skin)

    'blood loss weakens me'. (you get beaten up in every fight-its boxing!)

    This guy is a joke!

    he beats a weight drained over the hill oscar (pbf beat him at his weight and his choice of gloves without stepping into second gear)

    he beats a fat, slow exposed, overated hatton. (pbf beat him when he was undefeated 2 years previously)

    he beats a destroyed, ruined cotto not at proper welterweight limits (previously beaton by margo cheato who should be banned for life!)

    and then theres clottey..which speaks for itself.
    If pac does not like to be dictated to by a boxer about changing rules then why did he change the weight limit for the cotto fight? AND refuse to fight mosley at welterweight..pacman is a hypocrite. who loves catchweights.

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    pacquaio gets destroyed by mayweather? your logic being
    • Pacquiao`s a 7weight world champion, mayweather is a 5weight champ
    • Pacquiao has 50 wins under his belt, floyd 41
    • Pacquiao beat marquez in his own weight class, floyd had to do it at 147
    • Pacquiao smashed ODLH inside 8, mayweather drew with him
    • Pacquiao annihilated hatton, mayweather had to rely on the ref to cheat to win the fight
    • Pacquiao took the cotto fight and beat the hell out of him, floyd ducked cotto for years
    Again im fascinated to here how exactly pac gets destroyed by mayweather
    Are you really? its a very simple term

    Styles make fights.

    Yes they do and while shane uses an old school mix up pacquiao is out and out attack

    Only time floyds been in with someone that attacking was the night he fought hatton and had to rely on cortez screwing hatton whenever they came together (not that im claiming hatton would of definitely beaten floyd, would of been 50/50 though)

    Lets just wait until floyd is manouvering himself around the ring and pac blasts him with an overhand right and follows it through with a straight left sending floyds ass straight to the canvas
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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Mayweather will win this fight.

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Pacquiao has denied any agreement, giving an interview with or even knowing the reporter and says he is completely focused on the elections. He also says he is not aware of any official MP website.

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    HA HA HA..here we go! hatton would have been 50/50 with pbf if it wasnt for joe cortez! I cant believe this! what a joke.

    look on youtube and read your history about the amount of times cotto ducked pbf. you really need to learn your boxing history (and take down those pathetic signatures).

    marquez beat pac both times.

    by the way, how many times has pacman lost.

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    bottom line..take the dug test and prove your innocence..then take a boxing lesson from pbf..retire, and live with being second best in life.

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    I've been thinking about this a little and i'm not so sure he is taking anything. The main reason we think he is, is because of his power at 140-147, but that can be explained simply. You could argue that...

    His power has looked so spectacular because he's caught certain fighters as they're in mid swing aswell, so it enhances the impact of the punch tenfold. Even against a severely weight-drained De La Hoya, Pac didn't really hurt him. He beat him up for 8 or so rounds, but it was an accumulation of punches that did the job, rather than one punch.

    I remember Mayweather not really having the power to trouble Oscar at Light-middle yet, in the 5th round (I think), Mayweather lay on the ropes and countered as Oscar was throwing. He buckled Oscars' legs without even really properly setting himself. It was the action of De La Hoya that increased the power of the punch.

    When Pacquiao has hurt and floored Cotto and Hatton, they've both been throwing punches at the time. Same with David Diaz at lightweight. When Pacquiao lands on guys who aren't throwing punches, his power diminishes, like it did vs Clottey (who does have a solid chin).

    Furthermore, people go on about his jumps in weight classes, but they forget to mention that he turned pro at 16. Mayweather wasn't much heavier than Pac at 16. Infact he was practically the same weight.

    I've studies Sports Nutrition, so i can see (i'm not saying you can't btw) how possible it is for Pacquiao to put on the weight and maintain his power. Jumping from around 110 to 140 over a period of 15 years isn't enough to make me overly suspicious, especially when that person is surrounded by a quality nutrition team, which wasn't really in place before Pacquiao moved to Roach's team. The gains he's made in size are extremely possible.

    I'm not saying he isn't juicing, because only he and his camp know, but i'm adding balance to the argument that seems to just consist of 'he's juicing'. I just think he doesn't want to adhere to Mayweather's terms. Boxing is as much as a mental game and he probably feels that this is as big as an issue as the venue, ring size, type of gloves etc...

    I don't think he wants to concede any ground, and he's willing to adhere to the Nevada state commissions drug testing policy, so i don't think it's that suspicious.

    All the is irrelevant anyway. Mayweather would toy with him in the ring. It wouldn't even be that close. Pacquiao's output would be stifled and Mayweather is too hard a hitter (for pac) and too accurate.
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    @ IMP...I don't agree with you that Pac is on a level to Timothy Bradley but each to their own. Like you, I think Mayweather beats Pac so I'm not sure what you would want an apology from me over? Boxing fans are famous for picking apart boxers resumes (we are all guilty of it) and we could sit here all day doing it. I just think we need to give credit where credit is due. Most people thought Pac-man would lose to De La Hoya as he was the bigger man. A lot of people thought Hatton would be too big for him at LWW. Cotto would surely be too big for him but again Pac beats him and then people said Clottey who can weigh 160lbs + on fight night would be too big for him. Once he beats all these people and convincingly people then look for excuses as to why he didn't lose. We do it for every boxer out their. People thought Shane would really test Mayweather and when that doesn't happen we need to find an excuse as to why. Maybe Mayweather was just too good for him! We can look back and say De La Hoya was weight drained against Pac, or Shane was over the hill against Floyd but don't take anything away from either's performance, especially when going into the fight so called boxing experts where calling them the underdog or in Floyd's case, his biggest test yet.

    @ amat...I agree. I think any drug testing involved would have to be for the bigger events only as like your have said it just wouldn't be affordable to do it for every fight at every level. I also agree that as an athlete it's up to you to prove yourself clean but hasn't Manny done that. He's never failed a test! Now this could mean that Manny is clean, like the tests prove or he's taking PED's that don't show up in a urine test. I don't have any knowledge of PED's so I don't know what you can take, the amounts you can take, the timescales you take them in without getting caught...etc. I do know that Manny said he would take 3 tests 30 days before the fight and then a test straight after the fight as well as having urine tests. That to me doesn't sound like a guilty man but like I've said my knowledge of PED's is zero so maybe somebody with more knowledge can prove me wrong. I actually think Pac should just take the tests too, but that's only because I'm desperate to see this fight!

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    pacquaio gets destroyed by mayweather? your logic being
    • Pacquiao`s a 7weight world champion, mayweather is a 5weight champ
    • Pacquiao has 50 wins under his belt, floyd 41
    • Pacquiao beat marquez in his own weight class, floyd had to do it at 147
    • Pacquiao smashed ODLH inside 8, mayweather drew with him
    • Pacquiao annihilated hatton, mayweather had to rely on the ref to cheat to win the fight
    • Pacquiao took the cotto fight and beat the hell out of him, floyd ducked cotto for years
    Again im fascinated to here how exactly pac gets destroyed by mayweather
    Two can play that game.

    • Floyd has never been beaten, Pac has 3 tines.
    • Floyd shut out JMM, Pac had a draw and a close win
    • Floyd beat a younger and heavier ODLH, Pac beat a weight drained shell.
    • Floyd beat Mosely, Pac ducked Mosely.
    • Pac got KO'd cold by Singsurat who got knocked out in riynd 1 by Jorge Arce who got KO'd by Carbajal who lost to Pastrana who got KO'd by jhonny Gonzalez who got Ko'd by Penalosa who lost to eric Morel who lost tp Parra who lost to Caballero who lost to Cordoba who lost to Dunne who lost to Munroe who lost to Andy Morris who lost to john simpson who lost to stephen foster who lost toalex arthur who lost to nicky cook who lost to luevano who lost to honorio who lost to Gamaliel diaz who lost to humberto soto who lost to kevin kelley who lost to vicente escobedo who lost to Michael Katsidis who lost to Joel casamayor who lost to Diego Corrales who was beaten convincingly by Floyd.....

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    pacquaio gets destroyed by mayweather? your logic being
    • Pacquiao`s a 7weight world champion, mayweather is a 5weight champ
    • Pacquiao has 50 wins under his belt, floyd 41
    • Pacquiao beat marquez in his own weight class, floyd had to do it at 147
    • Pacquiao smashed ODLH inside 8, mayweather drew with him
    • Pacquiao annihilated hatton, mayweather had to rely on the ref to cheat to win the fight
    • Pacquiao took the cotto fight and beat the hell out of him, floyd ducked cotto for years
    Again im fascinated to here how exactly pac gets destroyed by mayweather
    Are you really? its a very simple term

    Styles make fights.

    Yes they do and while shane uses an old school mix up pacquiao is out and out attack

    Only time floyds been in with someone that attacking was the night he fought hatton and had to rely on cortez screwing hatton whenever they came together (not that im claiming hatton would of definitely beaten floyd, would of been 50/50 though)

    Lets just wait until floyd is manouvering himself around the ring and pac blasts him with an overhand right and follows it through with a straight left sending floyds ass straight to the canvas
    Since that's never happened to Floyd I'm less inclined to see that happening. And being that I have seen Pacquiao torn up by a counter punchign Marquez and being a sucker for a straight right whenever Clottey threw it I'd say you have a better chance of seeing Mayweather pot shotting Pacquiao a lot while being in front of him. Pacquiao will get hit a lot more then Mosley was hit.
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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    pacquaio gets destroyed by mayweather? your logic being
    • Pacquiao`s a 7weight world champion, mayweather is a 5weight champ
    • Pacquiao has 50 wins under his belt, floyd 41
    • Pacquiao beat marquez in his own weight class, floyd had to do it at 147
    • Pacquiao smashed ODLH inside 8, mayweather drew with him
    • Pacquiao annihilated hatton, mayweather had to rely on the ref to cheat to win the fight
    • Pacquiao took the cotto fight and beat the hell out of him, floyd ducked cotto for years
    Again im fascinated to here how exactly pac gets destroyed by mayweather
    Are you really? its a very simple term

    Styles make fights.

    Yes they do and while shane uses an old school mix up pacquiao is out and out attack

    Only time floyds been in with someone that attacking was the night he fought hatton and had to rely on cortez screwing hatton whenever they came together (not that im claiming hatton would of definitely beaten floyd, would of been 50/50 though)

    Lets just wait until floyd is manouvering himself around the ring and pac blasts him with an overhand right and follows it through with a straight left sending floyds ass straight to the canvas

    since when does Pacquiao (a southpaw) have an overhand right?!? a right hook yes, but overhand right not at all, the punches aren't similar at all lol

    i can see Hammer started mixing his meds with alcohol again

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Turned out to be a fake article.

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    Default Re: pacman has agreed to 14 day cut off

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    bottom line..take the dug test and prove your innocence..then take a boxing lesson from pbf..retire, and live with being second best in life.


    You did not just put "prove your innocence" - WOW, i hope you are never in a jury pool EVER!!!
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    Is this good or bad ? im not really up to date on steroids or ETC.

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