PAC deserve those props IMO

[Hornfinger]

nope I'm just sticking to the facts of pacquiaos opposition scince marquez outboxed him..... twice.

[Pavlik]

This song matches PAC, he is THE BEST FOR BATTLE!!!

[Hornfinger]

hahaha I'd say it maches pac because it was made popular by a fictitious character winning a fictitious trophy against a fictitious opponant in a fictitious tournement...





(Karate kid in case anyone didn't know)

[:::PSL:::]

This song matches PAC, he is THE BEST FOR BATTLE!!!

[generalbulldog]

Hesiquio Balderas of BoxingScene.com quotes

MAB, Marco Antonio Barrera...

''Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter in the world. Usually a good big man will always beat a good little man, but Pacquiao is a great little man. It is amazing how he can go up in weight and beat all of these huge guys,'' said the former three time world champion Barrera.
''I wanted Margarito to win. I mean my heart was with him and I thought he had a pretty good chance, but after Pacquiao cut him - I knew it was over. Manny is a gentleman, because he had Tony hurt in the 10th round and he could have finish him, but he let Tony survive. He showed his class and that is why he is the best. I am not ashamed to be on his list of victims because he is great,'' Barrera concluded.

Barrera: Manny Pacquiao is The Best Fighter in The World - Boxing News

As Tysonbruno, Hornfinger, and Taeth will say, "Marco Antonio Barrera knows shit about boxing. Who is this motherfucker to talk?"

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Hesiquio Balderas of BoxingScene.com quotes

MAB, Marco Antonio Barrera...

''Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter in the world. Usually a good big man will always beat a good little man, but Pacquiao is a great little man. It is amazing how he can go up in weight and beat all of these huge guys,'' said the former three time world champion Barrera.
''I wanted Margarito to win. I mean my heart was with him and I thought he had a pretty good chance, but after Pacquiao cut him - I knew it was over. Manny is a gentleman, because he had Tony hurt in the 10th round and he could have finish him, but he let Tony survive. He showed his class and that is why he is the best. I am not ashamed to be on his list of victims because he is great,'' Barrera concluded.

Barrera: Manny Pacquiao is The Best Fighter in The World - Boxing News

As Tysonbruno, Hornfinger, and Taeth will say, "Marco Antonio Barrera knows shit about boxing. Who is this motherfucker to talk?"

Marco Antonio Barrera had been in the ring and had gone through a lot of wars in a ring. Had anyone in this forum done anything even comparable to what Barrera did? If yes, then maybe you can criticize him. If not, then who are we to say that.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Its easy to pick of any fighters resume, Im sure 50% of the forum members can easily downplay any fighter's resume including Pac's. But please let me say these.


1st

Let us remind ourselves that Pac doesnt have the luxury of getting any fighter that he wants (Excluding Floyd) early in his career.

He's looking to annihilate the very best.

The biggest names were big names at the time for a reason. In 2003-2004 Morales, Barrera and Marquez were not just the 3 biggest recognizable name in the featherweight division. the y were the 3 TOP DOGS in terms of everything.

-Barrera was on HOT HOT Streak that #3 p4p was the least rank you'd see him

-Morales practically schooled IBF Champ Hernandez and had a courageous but still clear victory againts WBA Champ Jesus Chavez

-Marquez scared Gainer away, That's how good he is


Pacquiao did not blow away these 3 GREAT Mexicans. He only went 1-1-1 against them.
But he did take them on in a span of 15 months. Yes just 15 months .

Its like some Cruiserweight climbing up and taking on Evander Hoylfield, Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis

or some Light welter moving up to Welterweight and taking on Mosley, Margarito and Cotto in 2007-2008.

It doesn't also hurt that after 1-1-1 he went 4-0 againts the 3 Greats .


2nd

Starting the Diaz fight. Pacquiao wasnt fighting the same way. If you have watched Pac before you would notice this. He's looking for the KO from the opening bell. In the Diaz fight he showed great composure along with the improved right hook.

and look at the last 5 fighters that he fought and totally dominated DelaHoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito. These fighters were natural Welterweights that has or had titles and was also ranked at the very TOP and here comes Pacquiao blowing them away.

We can agree to ignore the 8th title but we also have to ignore SRL 's Lightheavyweight title fought at a catch weight of 166lbs. Out the 8. Only Diaz and Margarito weren't in serious consideration for being the best of the division. While Sasakul, Barrera, Marquez and Hatton were universally recognized as the best of the division.

After retirement PAC will be ranked very very high all time.

You are expressing an opinion on a boxer, the day after his victory, in a boxing forum. I don't know why you should be criticized for this.
Good post man.

[killersheep]

ha swarm!

[InTheNeutralCorner]

ha swarm!

So, are you getting stung?

[Pavlik]

hahaha I'd say it maches pac because it was made popular by a fictitious character winning a fictitious trophy against a fictitious opponant in a fictitious tournement...





(Karate kid in case anyone didn't know)

PAC is the first man in history to have 8 world championships in 8 weightclasses on top of that 4 lineal belts in the process. FACT.
BWAA can attest to that.

[Pavlik]

PACFANS THIS IS WHAT COUNTS!! IGNORE THE NAYSAYERS!!

[Julius Rain]

pac will get props from me when.....

He stops being given 'vacant belts'

Stops fighting at catch weights to his advantage

Stops trying to weight drain opponants

Takes a steroid test

Stops fighting shot/damaged/past it/josh clottey average fighters

He will get massive props from me if he does that.

Props from you is not highly regarded, so who gives a fuck!

[mnmc10]

pac will get props from me when.....

He stops being given 'vacant belts'

stops fighting at catch weights to his advantage

stops trying to weight drain opponants

takes a steroid test

stops fighting shot/damaged/past it/josh clottey average fighters

he will get massive props from me if he does that.

props from you is not highly regarded, so who gives a fuck!

amen brother!

[Hornfinger]

hahaha I'd say it maches pac because it was made popular by a fictitious character winning a fictitious trophy against a fictitious opponant in a fictitious tournement...





(Karate kid in case anyone didn't know)

PAC is the first man in history to have 8 world championships in 8 weightclasses on top of that 4 lineal belts in the process. FACT.
BWAA can attest to that.

Nope that '8th belt' was given to him. Margarito wasn't a champ, or a number one contender or top of the division, it was for a vacant title, plus it was at a catch weight. It wasn't at the light middle weight limit. To me that 8th title in the 8th weight class is completely fictitious.

Miguel Cotto was fought at 145 pounds. That's not welter weight!

It's all bullshit.

[Hornfinger]

pac will get props from me when.....

He stops being given 'vacant belts'

Stops fighting at catch weights to his advantage

Stops trying to weight drain opponants

Takes a steroid test

Stops fighting shot/damaged/past it/josh clottey average fighters

He will get massive props from me if he does that.

Props from you is not highly regarded, so who gives a fuck!

It's always the same. People get upset when a valid point is made that they can't argue