De La Hoya: Pacquiao makes fighters lose on the scales 1st

[generalbulldog]

I like Dan Rafael's solution

Manny defend his WBO Welterweight title againts Marquez 1st half of 2011. We all know Manny will come in at 144 JMM at 142... Figthtnight Pac@148 JMM@146 ( Very likely )

Mosley fights Berto in the undercard. If Mosley wins his stock rises by beating a young undefeated Champion. If Berto wins his stock rises, he'll add the biggest name in his CV that will surely add to his popularity as Mosley been with Oscar and Floyd.

Pac fights the winner (Assuming he wins againts JMM) 2nd half of 2011.


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Its sounds like a fantasy

It is insane to ask Marquez to jump two weight divisions at 37. If Pacquiao gets the win then he also gets no credit. Mayweather got no credit for doing this to Marquez and neither should Manny. The only way to make it half way fair is to have Pac come down to 140 and ask Marquez to make the leap to 140. Otherwise we are heading into Pac/DLH territory where most of us thought it was a mismatch and Marquez at this stage in his career, as good as he is, is unlikely to make that transition, more so with us all having seen the Mayweather fight.

Marquez was 145 on fight night agaisnt Katsidis. Pac was 148 on fightnight against Margarito, that's why Emanuel Steward considers Pacquiao a blownup lightweight at this stage of his career, he just doesn't have to cut any weight at all. Marquez doesn't have to come in at the welterweight limit of 147, fighters aren't forced to come in at the limit. Marquez can come in at 139 or whatever he feels comfortable at and then rehydrate only a few pounds, instead of 10+ pounds when he had to cut the 135 pound limit.

JMM wants the fight so bad, then maybe he shouldn't have priced himself out earlier this year when the fight was offered and more than likely it would have been at 140 since Pacquiao was only 1 fight removed from fighting there. No one besides Floyd is going to get 50/50 money wise against Pacquiao and other demands. In business, war, and politics there is no such thing as fairness, only parties with leverage.

[miron_lang]

It is insane to ask Marquez to jump two weight divisions at 37. If Pacquiao gets the win then he also gets no credit. Mayweather got no credit for doing this to Marquez and neither should Manny. The only way to make it half way fair is to have Pac come down to 140 and ask Marquez to make the leap to 140. Otherwise we are heading into Pac/DLH territory where most of us thought it was a mismatch and Marquez at this stage in his career, as good as he is, is unlikely to make that transition, more so with us all having seen the Mayweather fight.

sounds fair. but you and i undestand that Juan and Manny are actually the same "size" Pac's attributes just enables him to be more effective at a higher weight.

but againts each other nobody is getting blown away.

Pac has WBO Welterweight title, It just logical and fair that he defend it right?

Legacy wise fighting at catchwegiht of 141 for the welterweight title is a sore in Pac's CV

how about a straight up welterweight fight because Pac doesnt even come close to 147 anyways? IF JMM thinks that coming in at 135 benefits him then do it. Pac came in at 144 for a 150 fight.

Size doesnt matter between these 2 Miles. And i cant really absorb your concern about JMM fighting at a heavier weight when JMM can come in at his best form anyways. same as pac even if its a lot lighter than the contracted weight.