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    Default Re: Andre Ward V Arthur Abrahams May 14th

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    did anyone actually see abrahams outing a week or so back

    up until the injury forced the journeyman bits and bobs fighter to retire abraham was on the end of a barrage of clean hard punches that was reddening his face something rotten

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    that being the very guy who did that to him, anyone that even entertains the idea of abraham standing a chance against ward needs to have a word with themselves

    do you reckon Abraham has completely lost it? going the way of junior witter?

    i dunno mate, beginging to think he never actually had it in the 1st place

    his career highlight being a win over edison miranda, remembering the fact pantera got completely shafted in the 1st fight by a ridiculously biased ref
    he looked very good against taylor although taylor well past his best at the time

    i hope he turns up against ward and gives him a good fight, if he doesnt then ward will have had a relatively easy path to the final
    Not sure what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out though. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
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    Default Re: Andre Ward V Arthur Abrahams May 14th

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post

    Despite what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
    i really didnt see taylor in front mate

    i thought AA won most of the rounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Despite what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
    i really didnt see taylor in front mate

    i thought AA won most of the rounds
    Don't agree with AA winning most of the rounds, but to be fair I was distracted, was watching it live on a screen from the Notts Arena Froch Dirrell fight... Maybe the point I should have made is that Abraham for decent parts was boxed quite well by Taylor, so I'm saying an earlier version of Taylor takes a UD, and maybe Abraham, aside from his KO power, has very poor boxing skills and is actually very limited. His footwork is poor too......

    I do also agree that Abraham was taking plenty of shots against his fairly decent tune-up opponent. he was being backed up early. Ward will bully him and stop him late I reckon.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward V Arthur Abrahams May 14th

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    I thought Abrahams quit the SuperSix.......I think he knows his times up and cashing in....I think Ward will win BIG

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    I can agree on that I was just going by what he said after the Froch loss but we all know what is said and what is done by fighters at times hardly ever goes that way...
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    It's funny how a year changes things in regards to whom we ratee highly and such...and unless abraham improved threefold over his previous performance he's loosing big time.

    it is funny dude

    abraham was battered by froch, no shame in that

    he was beaten by dirrell but he was coming back into it at the end and a lot of people on here said if it had gone another round aa may well have knocked him out

    before that fight he was the favourite in a lot of peoples eyes for the tournament

    If AA can put the froch and dirrell fight behind him and get some form back he can make a fight of it, i think wards style is almost suited to AA at his best

    i just dont see it happening mate, best chance of getting to ward is early on in the fight where he likes to feel his opponent out, sadly for AA that is also his exact same tactic

    speed plays a massive part in this fight, even if AA can go against every point of his career to date and try and get a fight going he will soon realise that andres handspeed and footwork is just too much

    I reckon ward has him out of there within 9/10
    i aint saying AA will win, hes being written off a bit easy tho

    and wards power isnt that amazing and AA can take some punishment

    best bet is ward on points, and i reckon it will be closer than a lot of people are saying
    but as we well know his forehead is. I suspect he went to the same US boxing school as evander holyfield and bernard hopkins
    Don't forget Timothy Bradley.

    Funny thing is most people on this board tought AA would best KP. Seems a bit ridiculous now.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward V Arthur Abrahams May 14th

    Wards footspeed and angles give him the edge in this fight. If we disregard Abrahams recent fighst and assume he is coming into this one 100% he has a punchers chance but little more. Ward may test the water and stand his ground as he likes to rough guys up but if he feelz any danger from Arthurs bursts he will use the ring and control the range.

    Anoher long painful night for Arthur. These guys are in different leagues technically so Ward should have it all his own way but theres always a chance he could briefly lose his concentration and get tagged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Wards footspeed and angles give him the edge in this fight. If we disregard Abrahams recent fighst and assume he is coming into this one 100% he has a punchers chance but little more. Ward may test the water and stand his ground as he likes to rough guys up but if he feelz any danger from Arthurs bursts he will use the ring and control the range.

    Anoher long painful night for Arthur. These guys are in different leagues technically so Ward should have it all his own way but theres always a chance he could briefly lose his concentration and get tagged.
    This.

    It would be shocking if this fight was even close.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward V Arthur Abrahams May 14th

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Despite what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
    i really didnt see taylor in front mate

    i thought AA won most of the rounds
    Agreed. AA won most of the rounds in that fight for sure.

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    It's funny how a year changes things in regards to whom we ratee highly and such...and unless abraham improved threefold over his previous performance he's loosing big time.

    it is funny dude

    abraham was battered by froch, no shame in that

    he was beaten by dirrell but he was coming back into it at the end and a lot of people on here said if it had gone another round aa may well have knocked him out

    before that fight he was the favourite in a lot of peoples eyes for the tournament

    If AA can put the froch and dirrell fight behind him and get some form back he can make a fight of it, i think wards style is almost suited to AA at his best

    i just dont see it happening mate, best chance of getting to ward is early on in the fight where he likes to feel his opponent out, sadly for AA that is also his exact same tactic

    speed plays a massive part in this fight, even if AA can go against every point of his career to date and try and get a fight going he will soon realise that andres handspeed and footwork is just too much

    I reckon ward has him out of there within 9/10
    i aint saying AA will win, hes being written off a bit easy tho

    and wards power isnt that amazing and AA can take some punishment

    best bet is ward on points, and i reckon it will be closer than a lot of people are saying
    but as we well know his forehead is. I suspect he went to the same US boxing school as evander holyfield and bernard hopkins
    Don't forget Timothy Bradley.

    Funny thing is most people on this board tought AA would best KP. Seems a bit ridiculous now.
    Two years ago he might have, he definitely would have been the best fighter Pavlik had faced at that point. He just looks old to me now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Wards footspeed and angles give him the edge in this fight. If we disregard Abrahams recent fighst and assume he is coming into this one 100% he has a punchers chance but little more. Ward may test the water and stand his ground as he likes to rough guys up but if he feelz any danger from Arthurs bursts he will use the ring and control the range.

    Anoher long painful night for Arthur. These guys are in different leagues technically so Ward should have it all his own way but theres always a chance he could briefly lose his concentration and get tagged.
    You got it bang on the nose right there. Spot on post. Ward seems to much of a consumate professional to lose focus, but if he think the fight will be a doddle, he may get careless who knows. Been done before. John David Jackson is a beautiful example, schooling Castro and got iced piling in the shots. I guess the thing is though, AA has zero ability to fight goin back and very poor countering, that's why Dirrell and Froch just fired combinations in so easily and got out. Wards gonna have field day I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    Despite what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
    i really didnt see taylor in front mate

    i thought AA won most of the rounds
    Agreed. AA won most of the rounds in that fight for sure.
    Gonna have to rewatch this shit and get my head straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
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    Despite what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
    i really didnt see taylor in front mate

    i thought AA won most of the rounds
    Agreed. AA won most of the rounds in that fight for sure.
    Gonna have to rewatch this shit and get my head straight.
    I thought Taylor was ahead myself...I will have to rewatch it to....IMO the fight was similar to Taylor/Froch where Jermain was doing great until he started to tire....I could not understand why Taylor could not bring himself to hold in either fight...If he held on for dear life against Froch he would have won...And same for AA or at least I thought....I was at Taylor/Froch I seen Taylor/AA on TV so at times TV can change your view of the bout
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    Despite what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
    i really didnt see taylor in front mate

    i thought AA won most of the rounds
    Agreed. AA won most of the rounds in that fight for sure.
    Gonna have to rewatch this shit and get my head straight.
    I thought Taylor was ahead myself...I will have to rewatch it to....IMO the fight was similar to Taylor/Froch where Jermain was doing great until he started to tire....I could not understand why Taylor could not bring himself to hold in either fight...If he held on for dear life against Froch he would have won...And same for AA or at least I thought....I was at Taylor/Froch I seen Taylor/AA on TV so at times TV can change your view of the bout
    I was at Taylor/Froch too. Double check the AA/JT fight. I believe it was different. I had AA up, not by a ton, but up at the time of stoppage.

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    He doesn't have an S on the end of his name.
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    Despite what others had it at, I actually had Taylor up by two rounds on the night against Abraham when he got sparked so you could say he even got outboxed by a faded Taylor..... Abraham has that KO power for sure that can never be ruled out. Wards been down before so it can be done.... I'd expect Abraham to be in a shell for the best part of 80 percent of the fight. He better try use that 20 percent well....
    i really didnt see taylor in front mate

    i thought AA won most of the rounds
    Agreed. AA won most of the rounds in that fight for sure.
    Gonna have to rewatch this shit and get my head straight.
    I thought Taylor was ahead myself...I will have to rewatch it to....IMO the fight was similar to Taylor/Froch where Jermain was doing great until he started to tire....I could not understand why Taylor could not bring himself to hold in either fight...If he held on for dear life against Froch he would have won...And same for AA or at least I thought....I was at Taylor/Froch I seen Taylor/AA on TV so at times TV can change your view of the bout
    I was at Taylor/Froch too. Double check the AA/JT fight. I believe it was different. I had AA up, not by a ton, but up at the time of stoppage.
    Yeah I will for sure...
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