Margarito and the wraps

[generalbulldog]

Margarito didn't use loaded gloves, just like OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife.

[BIG H]

Margarito didn't use loaded gloves, just like OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife.

...and Bill Clinton didn't shove a Cigarre up Monica Lewinski's clout

[Mr140]

I say no because i cant really point out when he used then also he has never been know for his punching power at all. I think if he did load his gloves Cotto would of been knocked out sooner and Willaims would of been stop as well. But it doesn't really matter now because all we can do is guess when he tried to load his gloves, or that he never loading them at all.

[Jesus "Weirdo" Medina]

i think it is unlikely that he used loaded gloves. he could have but if he had used them before in other fights wouldnt he have gotten caught using them? or attempting to use them?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I say no because i cant really point out when he used then also he has never been know for his punching power at all. I think if he did load his gloves Cotto would of been knocked out sooner and Willaims would of been stop as well. But it doesn't really matter now because all we can do is guess when he tried to load his gloves, or that he never loading them at all.

Not really. Luis Resto did not knock Billy Collins Jr. out with loaded gloves.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

i think it is unlikely that he used loaded gloves. he could have but if he had used them before in other fights wouldnt he have gotten caught using them? or attempting to use them?

Luis Resto admitted that his trainer tampered with the gloves at least twice before the Collins fight and no one even suspected it.

Richardson was just observant enough to have caught the loaded wraps on Margarito.

[TitoFan]

Do you believe that Antonio Margarito only attempted to use loaded wraps for the Shane Mosley fight? Do you think he had used them before that fight or at multiple occasions during his career?

Discuss

Like I just said in the other thread. It's very unlikely that after 42 fights and having just being in with a 32-0 Cotto, that he would decide that a 38 year old Mosely would be the first fight that he decided to and felt the need to tamper with his wraps, I mean 'come on' !!!

Ahhhhhh...... pre-CISE-ly.... my dear Watson.

[Puerto Rican Punch]

This f...ing cheater should not be allowed to fight anymore. Of course is very likely that he had used the loaded wraps before. Probably we can guess when he started loooking at the frequency of his KOs.

[Pavlik]

Absolutely sure he did cheat before, he was not near as damaging in the Mosely, Garcia and Pacquiao fights. This guy is a freakin bully and cheat I hate him.

[erics44]

im not sure its certainly posible

Mosely isnt exactly innocent of cheating himself tho

Fair enough

All I will point to with Margarito is his record since he was caught cheating 1-2 with 0 Knockouts.

Also since the BALCO scandal broke in 2002 Mosley's record ain't all that geat either, though Shane has gotten older anyway so it's kind of harder to determine how much roids helped him.

im not sure you can use margaritos record against him like that

he lost to mosely but he had just been caught, i reckon when you get to that level the affect that that can have on you mentally can lose you the fight

his other loss was against pac and i thought he put in a decent performance when you compare it to pacs other recent opponents

[Master]

Whilst I believe Marg did cheat I was impressed by his performance against Pac Man and believe he does deserve to fight Cotto.

[rjj tszyu]

Whilst I believe Marg did cheat I was impressed by his performance against Pac Man and believe he does deserve to fight Cotto.

I think Cotto takes him apart this time!

[Chino]

Whilst I believe Marg did cheat I was impressed by his performance against Pac Man and believe he does deserve to fight Cotto.

I think Cotto takes him apart this time!

Loaded wraps or not, Cotto couldn't even make Margarito flinch with all the punches he received straight to his face and body. Unless Margarito dipped himself in plaster before the fight.

[El Kabong]

Whilst I believe Marg did cheat I was impressed by his performance against Pac Man and believe he does deserve to fight Cotto.

I think Cotto takes him apart this time!

Loaded wraps or not, Cotto couldn't even make Margarito flinch with all the punches he received straight to his face and body. Unless Margarito dipped himself in plaster before the fight.

This has always puzzled me, but I believe that the mental/psychological edge of having loaded wraps helps a fighter's chin or at least it gives them the courage to take punishment as they know full well that the beating they are handing out is much more painful and destructive to anything they might receive.

Look at Margarito fight vs Mosley...he attempted to use his same style but he was a little more timid after feeling Shane's punches which wouldn't have happened if Margarito had his loaded wraps...just my opinion though.

Look at Resto vs Collins...by all means Collins nailed Resto with plenty of power shots that really should have hurt him or stopped him or slowed him down and in previous fights it would have, but he had loaded wraps AND gloves that had been tampered with and that gave Resto the courage (and I use that term ever so loosely in describing what he felt) to keep attacking Collins.

I think loaded wraps gives a fighter a mental edge plain and simple....we'll see how this plays out with Cotto-Margarito II though, I think Miguel can stop him this go round.

[fugaziuk]

Whilst I believe Marg did cheat I was impressed by his performance against Pac Man and believe he does deserve to fight Cotto.

I think Cotto takes him apart this time!

Loaded wraps or not, Cotto couldn't even make Margarito flinch with all the punches he received straight to his face and body. Unless Margarito dipped himself in plaster before the fight.

This has always puzzled me, but I believe that the mental/psychological edge of having loaded wraps helps a fighter's chin or at least it gives them the courage to take punishment as they know full well that the beating they are handing out is much more painful and destructive to anything they might receive.

Look at Margarito fight vs Mosley...he attempted to use his same style but he was a little more timid after feeling Shane's punches which wouldn't have happened if Margarito had his loaded wraps...just my opinion though.

Look at Resto vs Collins...by all means Collins nailed Resto with plenty of power shots that really should have hurt him or stopped him or slowed him down and in previous fights it would have, but he had loaded wraps AND gloves that had been tampered with and that gave Resto the courage (and I use that term ever so loosely in describing what he felt) to keep attacking Collins.

I think loaded wraps gives a fighter a mental edge plain and simple....we'll see how this plays out with Cotto-Margarito II though, I think Miguel can stop him this go round.

Sorry mate but i disagree with you on this - if your clocked with a knockout punch it doesn't matter if your dressed in chain mail, have glass tapped to your fists and spikes in your boots - 9/10 you are going to go down. Wether Maragrito used loaded wraps or not in the cotto fight - there is no denying that he had/has a granite chin and Cotto hit him with everything he had. This is why he lost he went out and executed his game plan to perfection and Margarito just kept coming at him.