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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Good last round for Provodnikov, then Popoco come back and pours it on....good back and forth Ruslan seems like he took that last round off.

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Nice shot from Provodnikov, you can really hear the shots these guys are throwing.

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    Dear Provo,

    Slip the jab, roll with the right and counter with a right uppercut and left hook.

    Popoca has a hell of a chin though

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    Question asked, question answered ....good finish

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    Berto will beat the crap out of ortiz
    For all of his advantages...size, hand speed, push, level of comp...Berto had better hammer him like a nail or take criticism longer it goes really. Berto is still a somewhat flawed fighter when you look below the surface, pretty catchable with shots down the middle and before its over I think Ortiz will test his chin accordingly.

    I think both have some mental stir ups in spots but Ortiz really seems more and more manufactured, like he's trying to convince himself and could be his downfall even before the bell rings.

    Has Provodnikov been told it is illegal to throw any sort bodyshot Just one? Really
    Even though I dont have faith in Ortiz' chin this will be the best fight Berto has taken so far, on the same par as Collazo.

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    Provo is limited and has an odd style to pair with McGirt (that is his trainer right? I'm not just drunk am I?)

    As for Berto-Ortiz, I had thought "Oh EASY fight for Andre" but Victor seems to have put some stuff behind him and oddly he's not giving up height or reach (I think) but if he can sneak in a good counter I think that's all it will take...he should feel stronger at this weight and I question Berto's chin.

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    Berto will beat the crap out of ortiz
    For all of his advantages...size, hand speed, push, level of comp...Berto had better hammer him like a nail or take criticism longer it goes really. Berto is still a somewhat flawed fighter when you look below the surface, pretty catchable with shots down the middle and before its over I think Ortiz will test his chin accordingly.

    I think both have some mental stir ups in spots but Ortiz really seems more and more manufactured, like he's trying to convince himself and could be his downfall even before the bell rings.

    Has Provodnikov been told it is illegal to throw any sort bodyshot Just one? Really
    I'm not sure Berto really has any of those advantages. I think his only advantage is he's so far demonstrated more resolve and the abiltiy to fight through adversity.

    Ortiz really is a vicious fighter, and it wouldn't surprise me if he comes on the bigger man on the night. He's noticeably taller and it might be like when Guerrero moved up and dwarfed his higher weight opponent in Katsidis.

    Got a feeling Ortiz might be a tough opponent. I expect Berto to win, but I don't think he's fought anyone as good as Ortiz. If he does't break mentally or allow Berto to impose his will, it could be a great fight.

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
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    Berto will beat the crap out of ortiz
    For all of his advantages...size, hand speed, push, level of comp...Berto had better hammer him like a nail or take criticism longer it goes really. Berto is still a somewhat flawed fighter when you look below the surface, pretty catchable with shots down the middle and before its over I think Ortiz will test his chin accordingly.

    I think both have some mental stir ups in spots but Ortiz really seems more and more manufactured, like he's trying to convince himself and could be his downfall even before the bell rings.

    Has Provodnikov been told it is illegal to throw any sort bodyshot Just one? Really
    I'm not sure Berto really has any of those advantages. I think his only advantage is he's so far demonstrated more resolve and the abiltiy to fight through adversity.

    Ortiz really is a vicious fighter, and it wouldn't surprise me if he comes on the bigger man on the night. He's noticeably taller and it might be like when Guerrero moved up and dwarfed his higher weight opponent in Katsidis.

    Got a feeling Ortiz might be a tough opponent. I expect Berto to win, but I don't think he's fought anyone as good as Ortiz. If he does't break mentally or allow Berto to impose his will, it could be a great fight.
    I say size to Berto, well becuase its right there. He's weighed 145 lb his entire career and as much as jr middle and Ortiz has weighed 144lbs or less his entire career. Height wise has to be Ortiz and he def fights taller. In fairness if you look at the back spread on Ortiz no doubt his recent weights are pretty 'unofficial'. Taller leaner, Berto a squatier compact guy.

    Handspeed I dont think its close. Shot for shot berto wide I believe.

    Talking victory Collazo, Quintana and even a Urango do more for me then a completely used up Julio Diaz, Campbell and a absolutley spent force in Harris who had no business in the ring. Peterson was the 'fresher' of the bunch and going in fiquered to do more I believe. BOTH of these guys has some very carefully constructed confidence builder type matches. bertos title win alone was a farce of a challenger and I think both have looked iffy at times, Berto mainly in between rounds. Fights like a guy stuck between styles.

    Ortiz takes alot of stuff and brings alot on himself but anyone who climbs back in the ropes after being pulverized like he was vs Maidana earns points for coming back from adversity in the big picture...now what happens next time he gets rocked badly by a fresh threat, we wil DEF find out tonight. Cannot totally discount experience gained from a loss like that and he will see ghosts...he'll either go forward or he'll go limp. I think he has tools to hurt Berto, and think he can win this one. Its really not his skills in question here, its what he has inside and between his ears. Man that was too long, I need to switch to decaf

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Popoca has one hell of a chin, Provodnikov caught him with everything but the kitchen sink in the 5th round, and he hardly slowed down. Provodnikov must be wondering WTF he has to do to get this guy out of there.

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Brutal...not sure where's he's going but will be fun while getting there!!

    Provo vs Canello. Make this fight

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Brutal...not sure where's he's going but will be fun while getting there!!

    Provo vs Canello. Make this fight
    Nah, I think Canelo's too big for him he's been 154 no problem. The style matchup favors Canelo, he has the power advantage, and Provodnikov doesnt know how to take steps backwards. Would be entertaining while it lasted, but I only see Canelo busting up that face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Brutal...not sure where's he's going but will be fun while getting there!!

    Provo vs Canello. Make this fight
    Nah, I think Canelo's too big for him he's been 154 no problem. The style matchup favors Canelo, he has the power advantage, and Provodnikov doesnt know how to take steps backwards. Would be entertaining while it lasted, but I only see Canelo busting up that face.
    I think he can add the weight 147 ish and not be terribly effected. Style wise its a train wreck but Provo lacks the "big event" depth. Canello to the body would wreck him badly but you could put em both in walk in closet size ring.

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    Default Re: FNF tonight Provodnikov vs. Popoca

    Good fight. First time I've seen Provo, he is limited but easy to watch. Would definately watch him again. He has a sharp left hook but reaches a little with right hand (Although thats the shot that did it).
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