70 Greatest Mexican Fighters Ever

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One of the hardest lists to come up with in Boxing is a Greatest Mexican fighters ever list. The top 5 ain't to hard. In a Top 10 you already start seeing a difference of opinion. Top 20 and you already looking at a bunch of different lists. Mexico's has had so many great fighters that it's pretty hard for a fan with good knowledge to accurately rank them. Truth be told not everybody should be allowed to make a list. Cuz it's that hard. Even a expert will find it challenging. Good thing for y'all muthafukkas here, The Boxing encyclopedia Violent D himself frequents these boards. And he works the graveyard shift where 4 out of the 8 hours at work he literally don't do shit. So he gifts you guys the top 70 Greatest Mexican Fighters list ever. I could of gone to a 150 on this. So yes there are some fighters that were left out. But I stand by my choices and it's the closet to accurate list you can possibly get. Anybody that disagrees is free to give there reason why. Anybody that disagrees just to disagree can go fuck themselves.

1. Ruben Olivares
2. Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Ricardo Lopez
4. Juan Manuel Márquez
5. Baby Arizmendi
6. Miguel Canto
7. Erik Morales
8. Carlos Zarate
9. Vicente Saldivar
10. Salvador Sanchez
11. Carlos Palomino
12. Marco Antonio Barrera
13. Rafael Marquez
14. Chalky Wright
15. Fernando Montiel
16. Humberto Gonzalez
17. Gilberto Roman
18. Daniel Zaragoza
19. Rafael Herrera
20. Lupe Pintor
21. Battling Shaw
22. Israel Vazquez
23. Pipino Cuevas
24. José Luis Castillo
25. Jose Luis Ramirez
26. Kid Azteca
27. Antonio Margarito
28. Juan Zurita
29. Alfonso Zamora
30. Cristian Mijares
31. Marcos Villasana
32. Jose Becerra
33. Jesús Pimentel
34. Jorge Arce
35. Hugo Fidel Cazares
36. Rodolfo Gonzalez
37. Raul Perez
38. Humberto Soto
39. Rafael Limon
40. Jorge Paez Sr
41. Guty Espadas Sr
42. Julio Cesar Borboa
43. Victor Rabanales
44. Ulises Solis
45. Manuel Medina
46. José Luis López
47. Miguel Angel Gonzalez
48. Lauro Salas
49. Alberto Jimenez
50. Giovanni Segura
51. Edgar Sosa
52. Chucho Castillo
53. Carlos Gonzalez
54. Jhonny Gonzalez
55. Yory Boy Campas
56. Omar Niño Romero
57. Antonio Avelar
58. Juan Jose Estrada
59. Miguel Vázquez
60. Raul Garcia
61. Jesús Chávez
62. Alejandro Gonzalez
63. Gabriel Ruelas
64. Oscar Larios
65. Rafael Ruelas
66. Martin Castillo
67. Efren Torres
68. Daniel Ponce de León
69. Julio Diaz
70. Cesar Soto
    

Great list VD this is why i've always said, your one of the most knowledgable posters i've ever met.

But i have to say i think Ruben Castillo maybe a little bit overrated being ranked number 1, i haven't seen loads of his fights. I've seen quite a few though and know a bit about him.

But im no expert by any means, but he only made 6 defenses at Bantamweight right ? and when he moved up he was unsuccesful mostly.

His best wins above Bantamweight were against young Ramirez, Chacon. But he failed against Kotey, Lopez, Arguello, Pedroza.

Now i realize this is above his best weightclass, but did he really dominate enough at Bantamweight to be ranked number 1 ?

I presume you mean Olivares ICE ?

Yea my bad total mistype there.

[miron_lang]

IMO

Lopez should be #1

Manuel Medina should be above Guty Espadas(Too high)

Christian Mijares is too high at #30

Morales and Barrera should be above Marquez(Too high at #4)

Oscar Larios should be above ALejandro Gonzalez, Raul Garcia, Omar Nino, Edgar Sosa



Damn 70 names that's a good effort.

[Violent Demise]

IMO

Lopez should be #1

Manuel Medina should be above Guty Espadas(Too high)

Christian Mijares is too high at #30

Morales and Barrera should be above Marquez(Too high at #4)

Oscar Larios should be above ALejandro Gonzalez, Raul Garcia, Omar Nino, Edgar Sosa



Damn 70 names that's a good effort.

It took a lot for me not to put Lopez at number 1. I rate him extremely high. But Oliveras and Chavez I think did enough to trump him. Marquez is fine where he's at. His losses prevent him from being higher. But really you can only punish a fighter for being robbed so much. That fact that he didn't get wins he deserved cuz of moronic judging is unfortunately held against him. But I'm not gonna punish him to the extreme. Morales I can make a case for. But I see no way I can rank Barrera ahead of Marquez.

The Espadas listed is the Espadas from the late 70's. The Flyweight champion. Not his son that fought Erik Morales. Medina lost to pretty much only good fighters. But he lost to them way more than he beat them. Espadas I think deserves to be ahead of him

I'm a take care of something right quick. I'll come back and answer Ice and Maui's questions regarding Oliveras and Cuevas

[Spicoli]

My man thats a killer list and some serious depth!! Fooking nice. Numbers tend to make me dizzy but off the top Campas has struck me as pretty pumped up. Great numbers but seemed to find the door in more then a few L's. I'd put Larios and Gabe over him.

J.M Lopez was a gem undiscovered mostly. Damn monster but got in his own way. Would put Miquel A. Gonzalez over....J Gonzalez, Raton Jimenez too

Bolio always pissed me off. 53 a bit too high for me....got fat and sold on own power. Awesome list bro, really!

[Violent Demise]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on where Pipino Cuevas fits. One of the very few teenage champs and for about five years was an absolute wrecking machine. He started slow and finished terribly, but man those dozen or so fights in the middle? He was every bit as destructive as Mike Tyson was for his dozen best. I wish he and Palomino had gotten together.

Talk about a complex fighter. I think I was more than fair in his ranking. If anything a little to fair. Might of placed a little to high. He gets credit for being the youngest welterweight champion ever at 18. I doubt that ever gets broken. Who his team paid off to get a title shot with a 15-6 record and coming off a loss, I have no idea. But he took advantage of his undeserved title opportunity by slaughtering a good fighter in Angel Espada. Cuevas was as one-dimensional as they came. But that one dimension was a demonic left hook. That was literally breaking jaws. Espada and Harold Weston had to eat through straws after facing him. His 11 title defenses I believe it was is a hella impressive. But like you brought up in the Orlando Canizales case it was never an undisputed title he was defending. The welterweight title was already splintered. He was done after the Hearns fight