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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Not sure if i even expect it to go. Wlad will beat the crap out of the guy if it does. Which i still doubt it will. Haye will spend all his time trying to land one punch and get curb stomped for his efforts.
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    Wlad by ko in five or six, or haye makes it to the end but looses a wide ud. Haye just hasn't been that impressive to me at heavy at all, but had big enough a mouth to talk himself into this fight so good for him. When's the last time wlads lost a round? I think even if haye catches wlad, wlad will have matured enough to know to take a knee

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post
    Wlad by ko in five or six, or haye makes it to the end but looses a wide ud. Haye just hasn't been that impressive to me at heavy at all, but had big enough a mouth to talk himself into this fight so good for him. When's the last time wlads lost a round? I think even if haye catches wlad, wlad will have matured enough to know to take a knee


    I'm not so sure Haye is that big of a puncher at HW, he'd have to catch Wlad flush, with everything behind it, to hurt him, and the chances of that happening are slim and none. The brainfart that all Haye or anyone else has to do is give Wlad a love tap on the chin and he'll drop like a sack of rocks, just isn't valid.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Haye moved up to HW and fought Monte "No Guns" Barrett.

    He said Barrett's jab felt harder than most right hand from cruiserweights.
    And unless my memory is going, Barrett dropped Haye.

    I'd venture that Wlad's jab feels harder than most right hands from HWs. If Wlad lands the jab with any consistency Haye is in absolutely deep shit. I could see Haye going down from a jab if Wlad lands it consistently.

    If Wlad's right hand lands more than a couple of times, Haye goes down and probably doesn't get up.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    I think this fight is so compelling because it could really go any way. Either fighter could blow the other guy out and stop him early, or we could see an brawl with multiple knockdowns.

    I think we'll see Wlad keep Haye at the end of his jab and stop him by the halfway point, but I would be all that surprised to see Haye use his speed and athleticism to stop Wlad within the same time frame. I don't think we'll see a decision, I feel fairly confident about that.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Haye can't stand up to Wlad's shots if Wlad is landing consistently. Can Wlad land consistently on Haye? Haye is much quicker than an average HW.

    Haye has to get in and get out. Just land anything. Touch Wlad as much as he can.

    Haye is going to use alot of movement. Steward should have a good game plan. He'll have Wlad try like normal to land the jab and follow with the right hand. Wlad should also work alot in camp on his left hook (which isn't used nearly enough). haye will try to get in and get out. When he does, Wlad can land the left hook if he keeps it as compact as possible.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Haye moved up to HW and fought Monte "No Guns" Barrett.

    He said Barrett's jab felt harder than most right hand from cruiserweights.
    And unless my memory is going, Barrett dropped Haye.

    I'd venture that Wlad's jab feels harder than most right hands from HWs. If Wlad lands the jab with any consistency Haye is in absolutely deep shit. I could see Haye going down from a jab if Wlad lands it consistently.

    If Wlad's right hand lands more than a couple of times, Haye goes down and probably doesn't get up.

    I agree Capt, Wlad doesn't really need to have a special plan for fighting Haye, basically just keep doing what he's been doing. Stay busy keeping his jab in Haye's face, crack him with the straight right hand & right hook, and be sure to connect often. Haye simply won't be able to deal with Wlad's power, it will overwhelm him.

    I get the feeling we'll see the best Wlad ever for this fight, he wants to make a statement, and he's going to be bringing it bigtime.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 05-13-2011 at 02:48 AM.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I think this fight is so compelling because it could really go any way. Either fighter could blow the other guy out and stop him early, or we could see an brawl with multiple knockdowns.

    I think we'll see Wlad keep Haye at the end of his jab and stop him by the halfway point, but I would be all that surprised to see Haye use his speed and athleticism to stop Wlad within the same time frame. I don't think we'll see a decision, I feel fairly confident about that.
    A brawl would be fun, and even if Haye lost, I could respect him for coming to fight. I don't envision a brawl however, I believe Haye's strategy will likely be to play it safe, pot shot, and hope to steal a decision., in my view if he tries to trade with Wlad, he's fucked.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Ha brock you're full of it. Wlad has had 0 issues with 'Stitch' as his cutman. Souza got a bad rap because Wlad punched himself out vs Brewster. After Wlad scored the knockdown he went for broke and Brewster had the chin to deal with it.

    Wlad will probably floor his opponent early 1st or 2nd round...have 1 tough round where his opponent attempts to make a fight of it and then Wlad cruises to a middle round stoppage...once the WBA title holder feels the power he'll shell up like the rest of the 49 guys Wlad has KO'd.
    And what do you think Wlads going to do when Hayes far superior speed gets one of his bombs onto Wlad's chin?

    answer: CRUMBLE!!

    Haye KO's Wlad in the 4th after a quiet opening with Wlad trying to jab and grab, but the second he holds Haye he is going to get a shit load of hurtful rabbit punches and that is where Wlad will start to worry. He will be scared about grabbing again and thus leaving him vulnerable as for the first time in years he will Have to change his style and that is when Haye will catch him.

    I thoroughly expect Haye to lose a point early, but it will be the most valuable point he ever does have deducted!!

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    I've had these images of Haye getting a case of nerves and caught up after soooooooo much talking and bulding. ALOT is made of Wlads chin and fact that he's been hurt and rocked against some better then average guys. Well...whats the biggest punch Haye has taken as Hvy...whats the biggest threat and all around skillset he's faced as a hvy? Maybe I'm wrong but think Wlads jab will be the hardest and most accurate punch of any guy he's met. And then come the right. I see Wlad spanking him harshly.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Ha ! I like the Wlad worship thats going on here.

    David Haye has the best chance to KO Wlad since I don't know who.

    All depends if his confidence and gameplan are genuine or if its all false bravado.

    Lets go Haye !
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    I can see a number of scenarios for Wlad - Haye , but all have Wlad winning, the only way Haye wins this is if Wlad gets some kind of freakish injury and can't continue.

    The most likely scenario I see, is something simular to Wlad's fight with another small HW, Eddie Chambers. Chambers was able to go 12 rounds with Wlad before getting brutally KTFO. I figure Haye, who isn't even as good as Chambers, will only make it to the 7th or 8th round before getting crushed by one of Klitschko's big right hands.

    How do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go? (be honest)

    haye would batter chambers, it would be over a lot quicker than the chambers fight with wlad

    however, like most I think wlad is the favourite but haye has a very good chance

    i cant help but think that haye will land at least once

    and with wlad it only takes one
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    those who doubt Haye and think he will fold


    on a scale of 1-10 (10 highest !) how shocked would you be if he does Wlad in first round ? Seriously


    I favour Wlad heavily but wouldnt be shocked in the slightest
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    I dont think for one second Haye's arshole will drop out.

    I fully expect him to lose, like most I think he's got a chance early on but the fight drifts away from him after five rounds or so and he gets stopped.

    That said I hope he flattens Wlad for his Borat meets Keith Lemon voice alone.
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    those who doubt Haye and think he will fold


    on a scale of 1-10 (10 highest !) how shocked would you be if he does Wlad in first round ? Seriously


    I favour Wlad heavily but wouldnt be shocked in the slightest
    again i favour wlad

    but if haye knocks him out I wouldnt even call it an upset

    the fight could go either way and i think anyone with a level head knows that
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