He's not insane - he's just very stupid, punch-drunk, and completely shot to pieces.
He's not insane - he's just very stupid, punch-drunk, and completely shot to pieces.
Recently walked in to the Wild Card Boxing Gym and proclaimed,"i need 6 of you guys to spar 3 rounds each with me, who is down", everybody in the place cracked up, didn't look like he could make past round one. Hears his own drum beat.
Call me crazy, but i think an old IN SHAPE toney can do damage.
I was never a James Toney fan for the record but here is a man than would have been great with all those moves except that he hasn't met an entree on any menu that he didn't love. David Tua is another one that really disappointed fans because he could not be dragged away from a spare rib dinner tied to a herd of wild horses. I was reading some posts before this and someone said not to expect too much from a forty plus individual like Tua. What about Bernard Hopkins? He's the oldest champion in history and he looks as young as guys in their thirties body wise. James Toney isn't insane he is lazy. He had the potential and it escaped him at the dinner bell. I bet the dog hides his dish when Toney is around.
In 1991 (or 92, around there), in a KO magazine interview, Toney said that he would be heavyweight champ by 2004. (Marblehead, I'm suprised you don't remember.) So maybe crazy like a fox.
A lot of wasted opportunity, that's for sure. He has to be kicking himself, seeing Hopkins giving boxing lessons, when he was always the better fighter. Bill Miller taught him real well and he can fight all night with a minimum of energy expended.
Who knows what he has left at 43 or 44? I'd love to see him fight Hopkins...unless the two of them did business and decided to make it a non-contact event.
people think he's nuts and for a while i thought he might be too. punch drunk or w/e. but when i saw him go in the mma ring, they come out to fight and 25 seconds later he lays on his back, taps and yells, "Pay me. Pay me now!' lol i knew then, he knows whats up.
I posted this in the other Toney thread, but the man seems to have got himself in shape. Clearly an improvement on the bloated beast of the last fight and the thinnest he has been in ages. But as I said there, can he still fight? I am curious and really hope so.
Slim and fit James Toney means business!
I think he must be taking slimming drugs to lose that weight.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
I was obv exaggeration for effect. And it was obvious he cared a lot more about getting paid then winning. i mean, he did just enough to not get called a cheat, make Dana White and MMA fans happy, and collect a huge check by mma standards.
He knew his sacrificial lamb role and played it perfectly. And did it without getting so much as a scratch. He was never going to win, we knew it, he knew it, and at the end of the day everyone was happy.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
lol sorry, wasn't looking for an argument. I think what was cool about that whole deal is the true boxing fan had little doubt what was going to happen. And most of us laughed at the performance and were glad he got paid so well and wasn't hurt. I heard more arguments from casual mma fans that Toney might win then boxing fans in the mma vs boxing hype job Dana tried to do. Which to me was lolz.![]()
Toney is like Floyd ... He mumbles his bullshit everywhere because if he kept it to himself he'd be the only one listening to his crap . I don't blame him he wants money like everyone else . He knows damn well he couldn't beat a klitch, hell I doubt he could beat Travis walker these days . You do your talking in the ring ... And toney has only been loosing , and not only in his own sport
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