No marvin hagler

[Dia bando]

Sergio Martinez to say he is one of the best pound for pound fighter's no way, i have seen some of the best.and he is no Hagler.

[roberto duran legend]

Hagler was the best middleweight ever, IMO, Martinez is not in the same league.

[Dia bando]

Yes i go with that.

[erics44]

Martinez is over rated just amongst the boxers around today

IMO he is starting to earn his top 10 lb4lb status

theres no way he has been 3rd for as long as people seem to think

[Kev]

That's hardly a fair comparison though. Besides Hagler was a career middleweight whereas Martinez started out at welterweight. He's obviously not as good a middleweight champ as Hagler but he's still very decent, and it would have been fun to see him against the middleweight Duran.

I'm warming to him. He's a very good fighter imo.

I don't think he's a true top 3 p4p caliber fighter generally, but right now, with most of the top guys of the last 10 years or so retiring or on the decline he is pretty much the third best fighter after Mayweather and Pacquiao imo.

If you discount the Klitschko's as they are heavyweights, he's as dominant a champ in his weight class as it's possible to be right now.

Mayweather, Pacquiao, Martinez and Donaire pretty much deserve their current status as the top 4 now imo, although I do think both Martinez, and especially Donaire, were credited with it too soon.

If B Hop manages to beat Bad Chad in a fortnight however I might well put him back up at 3 as his resume in the sport is exceptional.

[Master]

There is only one Hagler. Martinez is the best at the moment. Hope he gets the big career defining fights like Margarito, Cotto and Floyd.

[Dia bando]

When we taik about pound for pound fighter's today Martinez is good,but not great, Hagler was just one of the best middleweight's of all time.So this pound for pound rateing of Martinez to me a joke, a good fighter that's all no more.

[Mars_ax]

That's hardly a fair comparison though. Besides Hagler was a career middleweight whereas Martinez started out at welterweight. He's obviously not as good a middleweight champ as Hagler but he's still very decent, and it would have been fun to see him against the middleweight Duran.

I'm warming to him. He's a very good fighter imo.

I don't think he's a true top 3 p4p caliber fighter generally, but right now, with most of the top guys of the last 10 years or so retiring or on the decline he is pretty much the third best fighter after Mayweather and Pacquiao imo.

If you discount the Klitschko's as they are heavyweights, he's as dominant a champ in his weight class as it's possible to be right now.

Mayweather, Pacquiao, Martinez and Donaire pretty much deserve their current status as the top 4 now imo, although I do think both Martinez, and especially Donaire, were credited with it too soon.

If B Hop manages to beat Bad Chad in a fortnight however I might well put him back up at 3 as his resume in the sport is exceptional.

Right, not a fair comparison at all, since Sergio hasn't been a Middleweight most of his career.

As for the current P4P rankings, Martinez should be ranked 2nd or 3rd, depending on if you like him better than Donaire. Mayweather, because of his inactivity the last 5 years, should not even be in the P4P rankings, that's an insult to Pugs who fight regularly.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Based on me watching Barker try and imitate a high guarded european fighter and giving Martinez some problems, I actually think Felix Sturm (or whatever his name is) would give him a really good fight... I could see Felix winning.

I wonder what Bernard Hopkins thinks of him

[Mr140]

Well Pavlik was a good champ had some good wins a while ago but since the lose to Hopkins his mental been fucked. Paul in the first fight i thought did enough to win it Martinez good fighter but eh i dont know.

[Rantcatrat]

Well Pavlik was a good champ had some good wins a while ago but since the lose to Hopkins his mental been fucked. Paul in the first fight i thought did enough to win it Martinez good fighter but eh i dont know.

Pavlik beat Rubio after he lost to Hopkins.

[Mr140]

Eh rubio not really that great of a win to honest i mean kinda shows how week divsion is when you bring a name up like that. I am just saying his resume kinda week to what most have been in past.

[Matias64]

On the other hand i've never been big fan of Haggler. "Marvelous Marvin" was never fast. His punches were heavy but not fast. He couldn't beat even old Duran and lost to Sugar Ray Leonard.

Though many people love to live in past time paradise i still argue that Haggler would be too slow for modern middleweight boxing.