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    Default Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    " Pacquiao would have gotten beat by him, period. Without a doubt, no doubt in my mind. As a matter of fact, I had already thought of a gameplan, we were already talking to fight him, and I had thought of a game plan on beating him. Now, it would have been a tough fight, but we were going to prove that we were the better people. I'm the better trainer and he was the better fighter, without a doubt. "

    -Kenny Adams

    I agree.. The V-nom would have fucked his shit up and tore him a new asshole.. Pac is lucky that Valero isn't around.. smh

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    easy to say when your fighter is dead..

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    Valero wouldn't have even made it out of 135 against Marquez...

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    Pacquiao would've destroyed Valero, without a doubt.

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    .... fifteen seconds of glory. There!

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    Valero with chin up high, little head movement, and poor lateral footwork? Manny would've KOed him probably faster than Hatton.

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    Valero couldn't even win against his demons...stupid comments like that just goes to show how some people are blinded by there own crap

    job biscuit (MOT)!!!

    eh eh!!!

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    Do you mean the same Adams who said Charles Murray could beat Chavez and then went on to be out hustled and out muscled for his belt by an unknown with 6 ko's on his record and lose Adams

    actually I think Adams is in a bad way right now and I hope he rebounds healthwise.

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    El INca was Pacman's Kryptonite and he would have beat that ass from pillar to post. Pac thought Agapito sanchez was a beast, wait until this madman gets his hands on him.. This notion of Valero being a one dimesional slugger is one of the biggest misconceptions. He was alot more than that but there's a reason why he looked so crude more time than not. I know this for a fact cuz ive trained with him a couple times in LA around 04. I got to study his style upclose and he surely aint one dimensional..
    If I had to make a comparison, Ill mention someone like Morales... He was actually a great technician/counter puncher when had to be and chose to be but he'd rather fight because that was who he was by nature.. He was a composed brawler-boxer..

    On top of that, when Teiken was first bringing him up, Mr. Honda made a personal deal with Valero. Goldenboy couldnt sign him due to his brain injuries so when Teiken took him to Japan, they had to build him up and they wanted to do it by selling him as this beast of a KO puncher.. So Teiken made a side deal with Valero.. For every first round KOs he scored, he'd receive a $100,000 bonus money and they matched him up accordingly.. They were guys who couldnt have threatened Valero in any way so this dude just decided to abandon his skills and hunt for that Knockout which made him look like a crude fighter.. But the man was a skilled fighter, a scary counter puncher when he wanted to be.. This is a fact.

    Sparring or not, it's very obvious that this man was versatile..



    Watch 3:50 mark.. This beast never took it easy on guys even in sparring.. Kinda fucked up but that was how he was. He wanted to own dudes in there..lol It's probably why Antillon talks the way he does today..


    THis was when he was fighting below 135, years ago.. even back then, he was punking much bigger fighers like the santa cruz brothers.. If I remember correct, JEsus Soto Karass and Juan Lazcano sparred him once and didnt ever want to spar with him again..

    Valero was a refined beast and a maniac.. He would have beat the shit out of Pacman..


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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    Valero was good and promising but is still miles away from the Pacman speed and movement. I think that under Roach, Pacquiao would have eaten Valero alive like Pacman o poppers would do a number on inky, blinky, pinky or clyde.
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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    It was Aerosmith who sang Dream On wasn't it?

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    Default Re: Trainer Kenny Adams:" Valero would've beaten Pacquiao, without a doubt "

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Valero was good and promising but is still miles away from the Pacman speed and movement. I think that under Roach, Pacquiao would have eaten Valero alive like Pacman o poppers would do a number on inky, blinky, pinky or clyde.
    Valero was a waste.

    Boxing writers that saw him in the gym years ago (dougie fisher of ring and previously maxboxing comes to mind) said he had unbelievable potential.
    But he had the motorcycle accident (brain bleed to some degree) and couldn't get licensed in US. He went overseas and by all accounts was training himself. The footwork and technique he had prior to going overseas degraded.

    He came back, had a few fights and looked like a beast. Yet, he dumped Adams (reportedly because he had become accustomed to doing things his own way). He needed a good trainer that would refine his technique and footwork.


    apparently he was schizophrenic and we all know how it ended.

    Adams can have his opinion but he would have been better served to say something like, " I wish Valero could have conquered his demons. If he had been able to do so and had worked on his technique and underrated boxing skills he could have competed at the highest levels of the sport. I could even have seen him beating a fighter as great as Manny Pacquiao. "

    But like normal a trainer, manager, promoter, or fighter speaks in complete over the top hyperbole.

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